2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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need help ASAP please

guys, I am currently getting a prototype WOT box installed on my car. it's for no lift shift, launch control, just like the 08's but it's for an 05 ss/sc...if anyone has a wiring diagram it would be really helpful...thanks!!!

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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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being that a super doesn't lose boost in between shifts like a turbo, what would this accomplish exactly? sorry i can't help, but i'm curious.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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it will help keep the tires under control during launch. and I don't think I asked that. I think I was just looking for a wiring diagram, k thanks.
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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it will help keep the tires under control during launch. and I don't think I asked that. I think I was just looking for a wiring diagram, k thanks.
you didn't ask that. i did.

calm down man, i was just curious. how does it keep the tires under control?
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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you didn't ask that. i did.

calm down man, i was just curious. how does it keep the tires under control?
sorry, it sounded like you were being a smartass haha...sorry I'm just freaking out because we need to find this stuff. basically you set the module to work with the pcm. you can sit at the line and push the clutch all the way and mash the throttle, dump the clutch and still launch nicely with limited wheelspin. there's also some other features that it does such as no lift shifting. not as much of a difference as it would be on a turbo, but still a helpful feature
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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sorry no clue on the wiring, but i deff hope this box works for you, would be a nice upgrade
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by boostaddict
sorry, it sounded like you were being a smartass haha...sorry I'm just freaking out because we need to find this stuff. basically you set the module to work with the pcm. you can sit at the line and push the clutch all the way and mash the throttle, dump the clutch and still launch nicely with limited wheelspin. there's also some other features that it does such as no lift shifting. not as much of a difference as it would be on a turbo, but still a helpful feature
to launch nicely in a ss/sc you dont dump anything you ease into both throttle and clutch. i know i launch on dr's that **** wont help you one bit you need driver mod if your having problems launching


jmo


only thing you dump clutch in is awd...


that thing is gonna make you blow the tires off if you think you can just install that and pull to line mash gas and dump clutch you are gonna spin... it's not gonna work like you think it's for turbo cars bro...
if it would help ss/sc GM woula put it on
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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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Do you already have motor mounts? This is already made for srt4s..right? i know i've heard of it before.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 04:19 AM
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to launch nicely in a ss/sc you dont dump anything you ease into both throttle and clutch. i know i launch on dr's that **** wont help you one bit you need driver mod if your having problems launching


jmo


only thing you dump clutch in is awd...


that thing is gonna make you blow the tires off if you think you can just install that and pull to line mash gas and dump clutch you are gonna spin... it's not gonna work like you think it's for turbo cars bro...
if it would help ss/sc GM woula put it on
ccp

actually it's quite more technical than that. the module shuts down two of the four cylinders to maintain a certain rpm (currently 3200) you literally have the clutch AND the gas pedal to the floor at the same time. with both pedals down, ALL THE WAY it still doesn't go past the RPM it's set for. if you set it to the right RPM, you minimize wheelspin and get near perfect launches, even in a FWD car. let's say you set it a specific RPM, for argument sakes let's say 2500. 2500 is where you get a little bit of wheelspin, but just enough to safely get the car moving and get traction without causing epic failure

we put it on tonight and it is awesome. just sheer awesome. the only issues we had were that GM conveniently gave us several wires in the PCM harness with the same color, and that during the tuning of the system the cat blew. I will be putting on my new catless dp tomorrow morning so all is well. pictures and videos are soon to come. the guys at n2mb have really come up with something great. seriously, I think it would a very good use of $300, and very easy to install.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 04:23 AM
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if u can do no lift shift to thats awsome man it so fun. congrats!
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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the guys at n2mb have really come up with something great. seriously, I think it would a very good use of $300, and very easy to install.
The initial GB will be $99 for one feature, $189 for both....

Here is a video of the 2-step at 5000 RPM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zHWCfw8z1I

4000 RPM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeCCR1_aLSc

3000 RPM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmE8rOueydM

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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pointless IMO for the s/c....turbos i can see immense help
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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so how does it work while actuallly luanching the car, when will we have vids of that
ill def get one if it works
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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pointless IMO for the s/c....turbos i can see immense help
You will see an improvement with the S/C cars, but you are right, it won't be a tremendous improvement like it is on the big turbo SRTs. We've had big turbo cars shave 7 tenths off their time from adding the WOT Box!

The 2-step will be helpful for launching the car the same way it helps on the turbo cars and the N/A cars. It will help hold a constant, programmable launch rpm so that you get consistent, powerful launches.

The no-lift shift will definitely help shifting through the gears faster, which will shave time. It doesn't matter if you are supercharged or even N/A, no-lift shift shaves time and makes it easier to do a fast shift because the engine doesn't flare up when you hit the clutch.

We will offer the box in 3 configurations:
No-lift shift only
2-step only
Both no-lift shift and 2-step

So, you can choose what is best for your application.

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so how does it work while actuallly luanching the car, when will we have vids of that
ill def get one if it works
We're working on getting launch videos, but we were testing in a residential area and didn't want to do that. It should be very similar to the 2-step launch videos of the 2008 Cobalt SS, since it is the same idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CACoZojujKk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFpw10NieKE

It will be more dramatic if you launch on slicks.

Details to come soon.

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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what part of philly are you's from and i assume your a rep of this company?..i live an hour north of philly..how long does install take and are you's still in prototypes or you's selling product?
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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sport thouse video's on something else then youtube if you can....work computers.

sorry i dident get here quicker, i would have given you the wireing schematic....cuz i need this.

big turbo car here....well not huge, but big.

how soon can we buy them.

plug-n-play or will you provide wiring instructions?

i'll order this as soon as details are provided.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LamboW9
what part of philly are you's from and i assume your a rep of this company?..i live an hour north of philly..how long does install take and are you's still in prototypes or you's selling product?
I'm a partner in the company. Jay from N2MB Racing is the other partner. The install should take about an hour, but I don't do installs. We sell our products over the internet and most people install them themselves or you can take it to your local guy to install it. The installation only involves hooking up 6 wires. I will post pictures of the install soon.

The product has been on the market for over a year on the SRT-4. We're adding support for more cars now. We have added the 350Z, G35, WRX, EVO, and Mazda Speed 3 already.

The bulk of the code remained the same for the Cobalt and there were only minor changes to make the 2-step work.

We're going to post more information, including a link to our website and an introductory group buy as soon as we can get setup as vendors here. I have PM'ed the admins and I am just waiting for a response to tell me where to pay and how much...
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god dam, get on it!!!!!
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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sport thouse video's on something else then youtube if you can....work computers.

sorry i dident get here quicker, i would have given you the wireing schematic....cuz i need this.

big turbo car here....well not huge, but big.

how soon can we buy them.

plug-n-play or will you provide wiring instructions?

i'll order this as soon as details are provided.
No problem. We got the wiring details from the ECU pinouts and a little trial and error. It will not be plug-n-play since we try and support a wide variety of cars. It will require hooking up just 6 wires. The total install is about an hour.

The 6 wires are:
Ignition coil power in and out
Ground
Accelerator Pedal Position
Clutch up switch
1 Ignition coil trigger signal

That's it. 3 of those wires are at one easy to get to connector near the ignition coils. The other 2 wires are at the ECU. The ground connection is just a body ground under the dash.

We will be selling them as soon as we're setup as vendors. The software is field upgradeable, so if it requires tuning or adjustment down the road, we'll just post that software on our website and you guys can download it and flash it. But, as you can see from the videos, the 2-step is pretty stable. That is the only part that requires adjustment, so we should be good to go.
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<<s/c'd i'm more interested in the no lift shifting
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LamboW9
<<s/c'd i'm more interested in the no lift shifting
Yup. Like I mentioned, the initial GB will be $99 for one feature, $189 for both.... Plus there will be a way to switch between them so you can try out the 2-step if you want. If you like it, you can pay to upgrade later...
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where does this box mount exactly?
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