just got it.

where can i get the software needed to adjust things?

 

No software is needed for adjustments.
http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/wotboxusersguide

You only need software to do firmware upgrades.

Thanks! Let us know how it goes for you. I could use help refining the installation instructions.

 

Got it hooked up yet 06black?

How you like it?

 

subcscribed for great info

 

ran into some small issues.

pending my network access tomorrow while im on a bit of a vacation i should have it taken care of in a day or two.

 

Is the 2-step RPM and the max RPM between shifts the same?

 

Yeah, it looks like his car has different wire colors than the car we tested on. Shouldn't be a big deal, we'll find the right wires.

Does anyone know where we can find more ECU pinouts besides these?
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...6&postcount=11

Thanks!

No, during the no-lift shift the ignition is completely cut. We could easily implement the no-lift shift as a 2-step with a different programmed RPM, but we found it worked better to just completely cut the ignition during the no-lift shift because it happens so fast.

Here is our users guide:
http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/wotboxusersguide

The no-lift shift has an auto kill time, or you can program it manually.

The 2-step launch control RPM is programmed separately (with the clutch down).

 

You should find the wire diagrams for the ION Redline. I'm sure there will be a few of those guys interested...

 

https://www.cobaltss.net/resources/pcm/03ion22.htm ?

Are they on this forum?

 

Idk. I am sure there are a few guys on here with the proper info. Or you can find more info on r e d l i n e f o r u m s . c o m

The diagram you have is for a 03 N/A ION 2.2L L61.

You need 04-07 ION Redline SC 2.0L LSJ.

 

I'll have the ECM pin outs, ect to him tonight.

got mine finished up just now, once the rain stops i'll get a vid for him / ya'll.

 

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wuts with the hostility man?? chill down, they didnt bash you at all, so no point in bashing them

 

No-lift shifting is faster. Launch control is more consistent and it builds boost on turbo cars while not moving, which you can't do without it.

Simple as that. You don't need it to drive. You need it to drive faster.

 

how much would you guys want to install the box?

 

I don't do installs. Sorry, no time. I would recommend anyone with automotive wiring experience. It should be a pretty easy installation. It requires 6 wires total. Probably less work than an alarm system...

 

now that i've done it and i've cleared my head of any conceptions as to how i think things should be wired, this box is super easy to hook it.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! OMG!!!! This is GREAT. You realize what a two step does right? It heats the **** out of the exhaust so you can spool a turbo while you're sitting still. You don't need to spool a supercharger hahahahaha. Also, the only advantage to no lift shifting goes to a turbo as it stays spooled in between shifts by, again, having the exhaust stream heated obnoxiously high. There is NO advantage to a no lift shift control box on a s/c car, well, except to heat the **** out of the exhaust stream.

HP Tuners and LS2 Edit have been able to do this for you for like three years now you know? You can set the p/n rev limiter and you can ALSO set the first gear boost limit. Something that I think would be WAAAYYYY more useful than a two step that sticks you at a certain rpm with full boost. Also, you can change parameters in the PCM with a tune so that when the clutch is in the car will hold a certain rpm until released and set into the next gear.

But good luck with the sale. This is rice at it's finest. I can't wait until you guys start throwing belts left and right.

 

hey intelligent,

go out and set your P/N rev limit to what ever you want....see what happens tool bag.

NOTHING!

the pin out needed to accomplish the rev cut doesn't exist on the ss nor the IRL.

you sir, are a total ******* idiot.

 

MOM!!!! wheres my ******* popcorn! get me my god damn popcorn!!!!!

 

Tell you what. I'll go make a video really quick, how's that sound? Do you actually have HPT, or are you just reading some **** lol.

 

unless your working with a yet unreleased engine harness, and /or you've made the jumper needed to activate the needed pin as I and a few others have done in the past. that table will have a null effect.

i've done it on 04,05,06 and i've tuned more cars with hpt then you have.

don't get pissy with me, unless you've made the aforementioned jumper you wont have any effects.

edit- the current 2.21 should support the needed 0S files to put that table into effect.

i know the current beta will.

i will retract my statement of calling you an idiot, i guess i havent much played around with the new version of HPT.

i've spent my time working the maf and DEFCO tables on my car post my rebuild.

however, the "2-step" is accomplished in a much more drastic manor by pulling all engine functions for its "cut" you can see and adjust its primary cut method via hpt but it will use the 2nd order function once the first order has been activated.

edit2-
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/tuning-131/2-step-warning-114489/

and on another side note, this box was fan-frickin-tastic for me, it using ignition for its cut and control makes my laggy turbo a much more enjoyable piece off the line.

also, after reviewing how the HPT cut works Vs the WOT Box, the cut done via the WOT box is much more engine friendly(SAFE).

 

You've tuned more cars with it than I have? Lol. How the hell do you know that? And since you know SOO much, then you would know that the p/n rev limiter WILL limit the car to that rpm. On the older version it would just kill the engine after two seconds and you would have to restart, but something WOULD happen. On the new 2.22 it works just fine.

And I'm sure that box works just fine for your turbo car, but it appears to me as though guys with their SUPERCHARGERS are using this. It's literally a waste of money and a good way to throw a belt.

 

Well, we provide options. Our 2-step is smooth and unlimited length. Plus the no-lift shift is very useful in and of itself.

and we are a lot cheaper than hptuners...

 

thats not something happening in my book...thats a disaster of unwanted effects.

i did give the now lift shift a go on my way into work and it was quiet fun, once again this is all from turbo car perspective.

i could still see this being a nice piece on my old 2.5 car, just the way the car shifted on WOT was nice.

on the 2.18 and lesser versions (back when we first started getting control on the balt) the P/N table had a null effect. I tried and tried to make it work with no luck.

thats when we started copying the pin out jumped from the canyon/Colorado trucks, same ECM with the 2step function for its neutral cut.

that worked with some success.