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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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This sucks, I have a set of pacesetter header (long tube) and no exhaust shop will put them in because I don't have a cat! What am I supposed to do now? Any ideas of how to put my headers in?
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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yea if you know how to do them on your own thats about it man
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Do it yourself..

Putting the header in is not hard, you just need patience.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 06cobalt_ss
This sucks, I have a set of pacesetter header (long tube) and no exhaust shop will put them in because I don't have a cat! What am I supposed to do now? Any ideas of how to put my headers in?
yeah, no cat they don't want to get in trouble. They can get big fines. A novice can install those in about 4 hours.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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thats weird tho, my exhaust shop said they cant take the cat out.. but they can work on an exhaust that has no cat..
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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yeah do it yourself, your just gonna cut your hands possibly thats it
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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yeah because the rule is if they tamper with it then they violated the federal emissions but if its already like that then they are good
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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yeah because the rule is if they tamper with it then they violated the federal emissions but if its already like that then they are good
Yah thats what I was getting at.. weird they told him no..

and fyi yel-low, your avatar makes me not want to post or look at a page when you have posted, it is not work appropriate..
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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It can't be that hard on our cars. (Don't be scared by this...) my friend and i put long tube headers on his mustang last summer, we had to pull the engine out about 6inches to get them in, and it only took us about 4hours to get it done. I've heard it's really easy on our cars
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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I would put it in my self except I have to cut my dp weld a flang on and then hook it all up. That's well n good except I don't know how to weld or have a welder so that can b a problem. If I use exhaust clamps I kno there going to rust over and eventually fall off leaveing me with a bigger problem
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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The pacesetter does not directly bolt up to the stock Downpipe.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
The pacesetter does not directly bolt up to the stock Downpipe.
Yup, i am still waiting to get mine put on. If anyone has a stock dp pm me!
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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No they do not directly bolt up. We have stock shorty header I am putting in a long header not going to directly bolt up. I have to cut about 6-8 inches off my dp to weld them up
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Send someone your downpipe, and have them do it...
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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I would go to a different exhaust shop. They CAN touch cars without a CAT if the CAT is already out when the car gets there.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 06cobalt_ss
No they do not directly bolt up. We have stock shorty header I am putting in a long header not going to directly bolt up. I have to cut about 6-8 inches off my dp to weld them up
Sell it and buy a bolt in setup. Save the labor and you can demod if needed.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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or you can trailer the car up there and say its a track car (offroad use only)
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 06cobalt_ss
I would put it in my self except I have to cut my dp weld a flang on and then hook it all up. That's well n good except I don't know how to weld or have a welder so that can b a problem. If I use exhaust clamps I kno there going to rust over and eventually fall off leaveing me with a bigger problem
You bought a mild steel header. It's going to rust just as quick as clamps.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Coat it with high temp paint.. and it protects it...

Clamps wouldnt work in this situation anyway.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
Coat it with high temp paint.. and it protects it...

Clamps wouldnt work in this situation anyway.
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But you have to strip the current paint off first.

I did it to mine and it barely peeled in little spots... I can actually touch my header without it burning the **** out of my hand after driving for 30 min or more and only let it sit for a few minutes.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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It REALLY REALLY helps...
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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It REALLY REALLY helps...
yah it does.. crazy how just the high temp primer and high temp paint allows the heat to stay in the header and protect it.. I think of it like my home made jet hot system.. So you can benefit from painting it correctly too, by keeping the heat inside the header it will allow the exhaust gas maintain volocity which, in turn, equals bettter scavange.
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