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Old 07-05-2013, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47

stop playing with intank pumps and build a fuel system.
Is there a brand you recommend for a surge tank? And would you mount in the engine bay, in the trunk, spare tire well, or back by the tank?
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Originally Posted by c130aviator
nope, the efficiency of a turbo can be based on many different things, head, ports, exhaust, blah blah. But no matter where you are the power is going to be similar. SO if your turbo is more than a 20g you may be at 18 psi and flow much more air and run out of fuel, but you will still probably be around the 420 whp mark.
the efficiency of a turbo has nothing to do with heads or ports

Compressor efficiency is a measure of how well the compressor wheel uses its kinetic energy to compress air

go read here lots of good info

Not2Fast: Turbo Glossary
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Originally Posted by armcclure
Is there a brand you recommend for a surge tank? And would you mount in the engine bay, in the trunk, spare tire well, or back by the tank?
I surge tank is not needed at our power level
Old 07-05-2013, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by c130aviator
If you could afford to buy it in drum fulls or like fuel oil is stored. Yeah. The better thing if you are on a budget is to have two tunes one for E and one for 93. Just dont forget to turn down your boost controller or POP. Run the E when you can cart back enough every once in a while.
Well c do you know how long ethanol holds? 55 gal should last about 3-4 weeks
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Originally Posted by Bad-A-SS
Well c do you know how long ethanol holds? 55 gal should last about 3-4 weeks
the trick to keeping e good is keeping it from drawing in moisture and if your going to get a drum of e get a race blended e85
Old 07-05-2013, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
the trick to keeping e good is keeping it from drawing in moisture and if your going to get a drum of e get a race blended e85
Whats the difference? Just curious
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There are several words in that glossary that use the word efficiency. I was just saying that the turbos CFM is more important than the PSI. His PSI will be lower than mine based on the turbos ability to move air but still make the same horsepower.

My 2.0 makes its max efficiency at 27 psi on the 20g. Hahns 1.4 Liter motorcylce with a 20g strapped on it will make that power at a much higher rpm at 34 psi, but the turbo is still flowing the same CFM.

The PSI is just a way to measure what the turbo is doing, as you said based off the turbo graph.
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if you can keep the E sealed a month will keep no problem. As was said dont let water get in there. E absorbs water like a sponge.

How is ZZP achieving this "race" file on the LSJ?


Tuning options include no ECM file, standard ECM file for setups up to 375whp(customer provides ECM core), standard file with core included, race file for setups up to 500whp(customer provides ECM core), or race file with core included. The race file option includes the following upgrades:

Adjustable launch control rev limiter 2500-5500
Raised ceiling for MAF sensor table for much higher HP potential
ECM tuning capability for boost levels up to 28psi
Full MAP scaling adjusts fuel up to 25psi boost pressures
Revised cooling fan control capabilities
High octane mode
Nitrous input

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Originally Posted by Bad-A-SS
Whats the difference? Just curious
A race e85 has race fuel blended into it and you can get it leaded or unleaded
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Originally Posted by c130aviator
There are several words in that glossary that use the word efficiency. I was just saying that the turbos CFM is more important than the PSI. His PSI will be lower than mine based on the turbos ability to move air but still make the same horsepower.

My 2.0 makes its max efficiency at 27 psi on the 20g. Hahns 1.4 Liter motorcylce with a 20g strapped on it will make that power at a much higher rpm at 34 psi, but the turbo is still flowing the same CFM.

The PSI is just a way to measure what the turbo is doing, as you said based off the turbo graph.
max efficiency is max efficiency no matter the cubic inch engine its bolted to
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Originally Posted by Area47

stop playing with intank pumps and build a fuel system.
What would you recommend for me to do and use for a fuel system? You help me build a good build an awesome fuel system. If your willing, ill drive to you for a tune. Id prefer yours as itd be better then most that like to cheap out and take the quick route on tuning
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Whats the power goals here.
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Originally Posted by c130aviator
There are several words in that glossary that use the word efficiency. I was just saying that the turbos CFM is more important than the PSI. His PSI will be lower than mine based on the turbos ability to move air but still make the same horsepower.

My 2.0 makes its max efficiency at 27 psi on the 20g. Hahns 1.4 Liter motorcylce with a 20g strapped on it will make that power at a much higher rpm at 34 psi, but the turbo is still flowing the same CFM.

The PSI is just a way to measure what the turbo is doing, as you said based off the turbo graph.
I know that's why I asked what the lbs/min were when you ran out of fuel
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Originally Posted by Area47
Whats the power goals here.
I want to see 600whp I think with enough fuel and a great tune my 2.1 girdled block p&p'd head stg2 cams s256et and 6spd and slicks will net me a high 10sec 1/4mi with good launch and traction. But I need the fuel system to support it on e85 and bring it all together
Old 07-06-2013, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bad-A-SS
I know that's why I asked what the lbs/min were when you ran out of fuel
i couldnt tell you, but expect the stock fuel pump and stock fuel system on 80lb injectors to quit on you around 420whp. Just my best guess/experience.
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Anyone interested in a full never used devils own meth kit? It comes with a 6gal trunk mounted tank, 3, 5, and 7 gph nozzles and spacer. Also have 4 gallons of meth to go with it. It is the total package. I don't have to sell it just looking to get what a paid for it if not a little less. I will just maybe use it if I can't get what I want for it. 400 dollars plus shipping just figured I'd post in here before making a classified thread. Thanks
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Any one have feed back on this pump dropping in our tanks? I have walbro 255 now. Think I could do a lil more modification to make this pump fit in our tanks? Or will it not fit at all?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...d=321035314959
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Originally Posted by Killa SS
Any one have feed back on this pump dropping in our tanks? I have walbro 255 now. Think I could do a lil more modification to make this pump fit in our tanks? Or will it not fit at all?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...d=321035314959
That pump fit, but I had to hack up and modify the whole fuel pump housing just to get it to sit in all the way.
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Originally Posted by slvr 04 rl

That pump fit, but I had to hack up and modify the whole fuel pump housing just to get it to sit in all the way.
Hows it work for you? Any fueling issues? What injectors are you using? How much power you puttin down and whats ur goal?
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Originally Posted by Killa SS
Hows it work for you? Any fueling issues? What injectors are you using? How much power you puttin down and whats ur goal?
I'm on a Ottp return fuel system and ID1000 injectors. The pump worked just fine. But idk what the car was putting down, I was on a built zzp block and #1 cylinder exploded. So I'm not sure what I'll be doing with the car..
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Originally Posted by slvr 04 rl

I'm on a Ottp return fuel system and ID1000 injectors. The pump worked just fine. But idk what the car was putting down, I was on a built zzp block and #1 cylinder exploded. So I'm not sure what I'll be doing with the car..
Damn man. I have the same ottp rsf. Looking to r3place the walbro 255 due to I think its starting to fail. And upgrading my 80# injectors. Did you get any runs at the track before it popped3d? Who did the tuning?
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I thought you just blew the gasket, Miles? That sucks though, because I was hearing that you were putting down some really nasty power since you had switched turbos.
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Originally Posted by mexi_loco
I thought you just blew the gasket, Miles? That sucks though, because I was hearing that you were putting down some really nasty power since you had switched turbos.
Nope it destroyed it. Atleast the block gaurd held the sleeve walls together but it looks like it broke the bottom of the block and the whole sleeve was in the oil pan. Destroyed the piston and valves in cylinder 1
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you were on 93 still, right?
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well i went racing tongiht and my MBC is the biggest piece of crap ever. My boost wsa back down to wastegate spring psi (15) and made the car feel slow. The TUrboxs hpbc is crap. I got out a 2mm wrench turned it counterclock and was back up to 19 psi. Did it again and was back up to 23. So the stupid thing doesnt hold its setting. the set screw is garbage. Time to get an electronic boost controller...

edit: i found out my hahn manifold is cracked and leaking boost again, the MBC is fine.

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