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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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Ok we got a problem

So im done with the installation of the stage 1 kit from ott and i thought i did everything correctly but now the car wont start. Seems like its doing the same thing its doing if i wasn't pushing the clutch in when turning the key. Do you guys think unplugged the battery will fix it and how long should i unplug it for? Or, what else may i have to do to get this thing running?
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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does the power turn on?

Did you put the fuel relay back in? (if you took it out).
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Yea power turns on, and i didnt take out the fuel relay. Its doing what it does as if the clutch is not being pressed in when trying to start our cars.
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Try uplugging the battery for about 10 seconds.. see what happends...

is the PCM in correctly?

when u turn the key do you hear the fuel pump running?

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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Yea the fuel pump is running and i have the battery out now, its been out for about 10mins im going to try starting it real fast...(Praying)

Nothing i dont know what wrong with it, when i turn the key i hear the fuel pump turn on the lights and the radio turn on, then i press the clutch turn the key hear a click lights and radio turn off. When i turn the key back the lights and radio turn back on???

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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Did you replace the ECM? Does their ECM require a relearn procedure?
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Hello Mr sandman, you might need to get a relearn from dealer.

Opps sorry matt m, you were quick to the draw...lol
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Makes no sense O.o I've taken my pcm out a few times, never had any problems at all.

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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Yea it does but i was told that i could start the car and drive it to the place to preform the relearn.
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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if that is the case then I'm glad I am send my pcm in first and getting that one back
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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you think it might be the pcm?
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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probably a stupid point to make...probably.


but are all the connections in the engine bay....connected, and connected to where they should properly be?
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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could the engine not start if it notices an injector unclipped or something?
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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i just checked everything and it all seems to be in place....

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could the engine not start if it notices an injector unclipped or something?
Does anyone know the answer to this... im taking them all out and re-installing them anyway but that keep the car from starting?

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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Yea it does but i was told that i could start the car and drive it to the place to preform the relearn.
That's a crank variation learn procedure. Without it, your car will still start and drive. Spark timing is just possibly off a little.

A seed key relearn or security relearn is not the same thing. Without it(If you need it.), you can not start your car.
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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That's a crank variation learn procedure. Without it, your car will still start and drive. Spark timing is just possibly off a little.

A seed key relearn or security relearn is not the same thing. Without it(If you need it.), you can not start your car.
How do i know if i need one or not and how much will the dealer charge to do it on my car?
Also i dont think anyone else had a problem with there cars after installing the kit why mine?
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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you need a case relearn and security relearn
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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no thats bs i got a different pcm and mine started just fine i would double check and make sure you didnt blow any fuses or something isnt accidently disconnected

how old is the battery

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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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check your fuses?
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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I took it all apart and put it back together, batter isnt that old it should still be good... Im hoping its not the computer that i got from them...
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Have you sent the old CPU in? If not try your old one just to see if it turns over. (if it does shut down fast)
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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is the theft light on???

If it is you'll have to do a theft learn......Attempt to start the car, then leave the key in the run position for about 10 minutes (until the security light goes out). Turn the key off, wait a few seconds, then to the run position again. Repeat that cycle a total of 3 times. After the 3rd time, key off wait a minute then start the car.

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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Yes the light is on along with the check engine light im going to try that tho i really hope that fixes it.i have to leave it in the run pos. for ten mins each time?
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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that sucks..i never had that problem
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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is the theft light on???

If it is you'll have to do a theft learn......Attempt to start the car, then leave the key in the run position for about 10 minutes. Turn the key off, wait a few seconds, then to the run position again. Repeat that cycle a total of 3 times. After the 3rd time, key off wait a minute then start the car.
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