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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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OTTP Stage 1

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I recently got 60# injectors and a harness and I ordered a 2.8" pulley from Nate at Smoothflow. I was considering getting the OTT stage 1 tune and I had a few questions for everyone tunning OTTP Stage 1.

Will it out-perform GM stage 2?

Will I have a bouncy idle?

How bad is your fuel economy?

Please leave your feedback on their Stage 1 kit, because I want to know if it is worth me getting a their canned tune or not.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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idle = smooth as a baby's butt.

I'm out-running GM Stage 3 cobalts (barely). Granted, you have a lot more work to do to your car to run ottp's stage kit, but it's very much worth it.

And as for fuel economy, well I'm averaging 26-30 mpg's depending on how often i drive on the freeway. When I was Stage 2 from GM, I would average 23 mpg's at most. Then again, this one is a lot trickier to discuss cause there's a lot of factors that affect it. But if the only factors are the stage kit, then there shouldn't be a big difference if any at all.

And it's not a "canned tune". They give you a tune that's specific to your vehicle and what mods you have on it. If you have any questions about the stage kit, just talk to the guys. They're really cool and don't mind clearing up any misconceptions about their products.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:06 AM
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There is no reason to pay for their stage 1 kit, when you already have the injectors and the smooth flow pulley.

You can order a tune from them without having to buy the "stage kit"...
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
There is no reason to pay for their stage 1 kit, when you already have the injectors and the smooth flow pulley.

You can order a tune from them without having to buy the "stage kit"...
No, I realize I wouldn't need the whole kit , I meant the Stage 1 tune. Sorry.

[QUOTE=ShortStack;3970392]I'm out-running GM Stage 3 cobalts (barely). Granted, you have a lot more work to do to your car to run ottp's stage kit, but it's very much worth it.
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I already have GM stage 2, so really all I NEED is a 2.8 pulley, 60# injector, and a harness. I wouldn't NEED anything else would I? Dual Pass and a bigger H/E are obviously helpful too.

Anyone else have an OTT stage 1 kit and want to throw in their 2 cents?
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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hes just talking about gettin the tune from them.
and u will get a better tune if u hit up zach he has those same mods and he can get u a reallly good tune. for like half the price
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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What mods do you have right now?

If you have the GM Stage 2 then you're going to need the entire OTT Stage 1 Kit as it comes with a different pulley, bigger injectors etc. than you already have. So you wouldn't just need their tune, though if you wanted to keep your lil 42's and drop pulleys I'm sure they would tune your car for you..
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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I would go with something else besides ottp stage 1. There are a lot better options out there.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by coopn8r
What mods do you have right now?

If you have the GM Stage 2 then you're going to need the entire OTT Stage 1 Kit as it comes with a different pulley, bigger injectors etc. than you already have. So you wouldn't just need their tune, though if you wanted to keep your lil 42's and drop pulleys I'm sure they would tune your car for you..
I already have the 60# injectors, harness, and pulley. The GM stage 2 belt should work for a 2.8 if I'm not misunderstood.

Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
I would go with something else besides ottp stage 1. There are a lot better options out there.
That doesn't do me any good, why don't your recommend OTT and what would you recommend?

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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
I would go with something else besides ottp stage 1. There are a lot better options out there.
There are no better options out there for the price. I believe the stage 1 kit is down to $340 now-a-days. Only things making more power (that i'm aware of) are turbo kits and the TVS...both of which are well over $1,000. If you are not worried about price then by all means get a turbo or TVS
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by schamsy
I already have GM stage 2, so really all I NEED is a 2.8 pulley, 60# injector, and a harness. I wouldn't NEED anything else would I? Dual Pass and a bigger H/E are obviously helpful too.
Originally Posted by schamsy
I already have the 60# injectors, harness, and pulley. The GM stage 2 belt should work for a 2.8 if I'm not misunderstood.
yes the stage 2 belt would work w/that pulley. Just make sure that the pulley you order from Nate matches the stage 2 hub, otherwise you're gonna need to pull of that hub and press on the new one.

It's HIGHLY recommended that you go with a bigger h/e too. Dual pass is also well recommended. So i would say that yes, you do NEED those as well. To my understanding, the m62 has a lot of problems with heat soak when you put any pulley smaller than 3", so any cooling mod you can bolt on will help.

The only thing you don't NEED, that could help would be a clutch, or meth, or stu's mod.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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if u already have 60s and 2.8 then get a tune from some1 else it will be half the price
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
I would go with something else besides ottp stage 1. There are a lot better options out there.
I see you in everyone of these threads saying don't buy ott. I know who you are from the redline forums, and I'm pretty sure you have never bought from us. Whats better...the gms3? Lets hear your reasoning
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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the stg1 kit is a steal 340 for 60s, 2.8, and tune really good deal imo. but if hes already got the 60s and 2.8 then he would be better off for the money to get a tune from a member on here
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
I would go with something else besides ottp stage 1. There are a lot better options out there.
Ive been running the OTT tune for since October. My car has put a few buses on GM Stage 2 cars. I only have 2.8, 60's, and their tune nothing else. I have proof if people witnessing all my runs too. Please don't talk **** on something you don't know. Other options really aren't out there for a canned tune that runs this good. And Im not nutswinging either. I just know the tune worked out great. I put a car on a custom tune from Trifecta with same pulley size and 60's, intake, heat exchanger, and catless downpipe...
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
Ive been running the OTT tune for since October. My car has put a few buses on GM Stage 2 cars. I only have 2.8, 60's, and their tune nothing else. I have proof if people witnessing all my runs too. Please don't talk **** on something you don't know. Other options really aren't out there for a canned tune that runs this good. And Im not nutswinging either. I just know the tune worked out great. I put a car on a custom tune from Trifecta with same pulley size and 60's, intake, heat exchanger, and catless downpipe...
a few buses ?? i doubt that .... maybe a bus, but deff. not a few .... GM Stage 2 (nothing else) is good for high 13's very low 14's. OTTP Stage 1 is usually good for mid 13's. That diff. does not equate to a few busses in a race.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006RedCobaltSS
Ive been running the OTT tune for since October. My car has put a few buses on GM Stage 2 cars. I only have 2.8, 60's, and their tune nothing else. I have proof if people witnessing all my runs too. Please don't talk **** on something you don't know. Other options really aren't out there for a canned tune that runs this good. And Im not nutswinging either. I just know the tune worked out great. I put a car on a custom tune from Trifecta with same pulley size and 60's, intake, heat exchanger, and catless downpipe...
You should go into sales and marketing with that pitch... it makes me want to buy from OTTP. I guess we shall see. I just cant be without my car for 1+ week. If I would send my PCM in.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fast98
I see you in everyone of these threads saying don't buy ott. I know who you are from the redline forums, and I'm pretty sure you have never bought from us. Whats better...the gms3? Lets hear your reasoning
I just dont like canned tunes. There is nothing wrong with ott stage 1, I was just going to say if you have someone local that tunes lsj's that would be your best bet.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
a few buses ?? i doubt that .... maybe a bus, but deff. not a few .... GM Stage 2 (nothing else) is good for high 13's very low 14's. OTTP Stage 1 is usually good for mid 13's. That diff. does not equate to a few busses in a race.
Talk to 1badlsj about that then... He'll tell you first hand.

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You should go into sales and marketing with that pitch... it makes me want to buy from OTTP. I guess we shall see. I just cant be without my car for 1+ week. If I would send my PCM in.
Im in sales LOL. AT&T. And they can send you a PCM out and you send yours into them. Its a deposit needed to put down. Basically, trading PCM's. Talk to Fast98 about it. I was the needy customer that had a few problems, and actually helped me instead of ignoring.

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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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I went the same route as you and had the 2.8 and 60s so I ordered their tune. I'm gonna flash it in when I get back from maryland this week so I will let you know how I like it.
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Originally Posted by mexi_loco
idle = smooth as a baby's butt.

I'm out-running GM Stage 3 cobalts (barely). Granted, you have a lot more work to do to your car to run ottp's stage kit, but it's very much worth it.

And as for fuel economy, well I'm averaging 26-30 mpg's depending on how often i drive on the freeway. When I was Stage 2 from GM, I would average 23 mpg's at most. Then again, this one is a lot trickier to discuss cause there's a lot of factors that affect it. But if the only factors are the stage kit, then there shouldn't be a big difference if any at all.

And it's not a "canned tune". They give you a tune that's specific to your vehicle and what mods you have on it. If you have any questions about the stage kit, just talk to the guys. They're really cool and don't mind clearing up any misconceptions about their products.
Hes just being modest, but it is more powerful, and for the price it is definitely a way better option than GM S3.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Awesome good info here, please keep any comments comming.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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I have the ottp stage one and i tell you what man, i raced my buddys srt 4 and beat him by a car lengths at least. The kit is amazing for the price they sell it for the tune is really good and makes your car fast as hell. They have great tunes for your cars depending on what stuff you have done to it. If you go with their tune you will be happy, Or, you can get a custom tune from some tuner in your area, they are both good ideas one will just be more specific on your car than the other.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
I just dont like canned tunes. There is nothing wrong with ott stage 1, I was just going to say if you have someone local that tunes lsj's that would be your best bet.
it's not, for the last time, a "canned" tune. They make the proper adjustments based on what you have already done to your car.

Originally Posted by Pyros777
Hes just being modest, but it is more powerful, and for the price it is definitely a way better option than GM S3.
You kept up with me pretty much the whole time, Steve. I didn't pull buses on you, probably just half a car at most. But you gotta admit, we pulled steven pretty hard
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