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Old May 11, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by avro206
I can't beleive no one knows this.....put all the windows down and turn on the heat. That will lower the temp.

110 celcuis is a cooking 230F!
i just said that.....thats what ur saposed to do not a/c
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Old May 11, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cavy9psi
i never heard that turnin the A/c on helps maybe it does but i kno turnin the heat on does...but if its normal or says chevy then i wouldnt worry about it, it seems alil high for a car but its 2006 so could be.....
My friend turns on the heat when his car overheats and it works for him. Ive never tried it but he told me that the engine blows the hot air into the car.
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The a/c does put more load on the engine, but it also over-rides the fan switch and keeps it on constantly, because of that extra load. Putting the a/c on to cool the engine and nothing else only wastes gas. The engine is perfectly capable of cooling itself when it gets hot enough. And a car running at 230, or 3/4 of its temp gauge, or whatever, is not overheating. That's what the red area is for on a gauge, or if the Cobalt got too hot, I'm sure it would beep at you just as it does when you're low on fuel. If you have the Cobalt, just don't look at the temp on the DIC, and you'll be fine.
I think that you are wrong about my Cavelier. Its a 2000 and it shouldnt heat up to 3/4 of the gauge and keep getting hotter. There is something wrong with my car. One of my red lights turns on in my car once in a while and its a picture of an oil leak or sumtin like that. Theres a lot of things wrong with my car (ABS light, brake light, E Brake dont work, 3 door handles instead of 4, trunk thats tied down...) and i dont care enough to get it fixed. Im gonna sell it and hopefully il get 2k when i fix some of the problems.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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My car used to get up to 225 all the time, but after I got my exhaust I have yet to see it above 218.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmc007
IMO 215 is too high.

215 is not too high... i believe the cooling fans kick on at 230..; you have nothing to worry about, it's pretty normal...
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Old May 11, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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alright thanks everyone ill stop looking at it
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Old May 11, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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stop?
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Old May 11, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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eh?

.... now that i think about it, the cooling fan comes on when you run the air conditioning. technically, the a/c heats up the motor.... but as a preventative measure that fan cools things down.

makes sense now
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Old May 11, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Souljaboi
I live in a very congested area so I'm frequently stuck in traffic. I've seen the temp go up to about 225 degrees F. I'm pretty sure these stout little motors can handle it.

Soulja...Out

BTW... I have a Black one too, and it gets about 70 million degrees in there during the summer. LOL
Is it really that bad in a black car? Will it be so much worse than a blue one because I know I want black but I dont wana sit in a car that is a moving heater with leather seats...
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Old May 11, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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I have black. I was debating black or blue also. It's not that bad at all just black attracks more sunlight therefore COULD cause the car to overheat/ be hotter inside the car. If you like black more than blue, I'd definately get black.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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You're NOT overheating
The factory cooling fan logic for the LSJ is as follows:

The PCM commands Low Speed Fans ON (both fans 1/2 speed) under the following conditions:
• Engine coolant temperature (ECT) exceeds approximately 106°C (223°F).
• A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1 310 kPa (190 psi).
• After the vehicle is shut off, the ECT at key-off is greater than 140°C (284°F) and system voltage is more than 12 volts. The fans will stay on for approximately 3 minutes.

The PCM commands High Speed Fans ON (both fans full speed) under the following conditions:
• ECT reaches 110°C (230°F).
• A/C refrigerant pressure exceeds 1 655 kPa (240 psi).
• When certain DTCs set

It will overshoot slightly but basically your peak NORMAL operating temperature should be approx 230F

Wop
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Old May 12, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
215 is not too high... i believe the cooling fans kick on at 230..; you have nothing to worry about, it's pretty normal...
The thing I don't like about the cobalt is that the variance in temperature can prematurely wear out engine parts.

I mean we're talking about a jump between 190 or so to 225, if that's happening all day long, think of what it's doing to the oil and engine parts. That's a 35 degree variance that's going on every 10 minutes or so. I know why they did it. (to save the fan) But I don't think it can be very good for longevity. Especially with the way some of us drive. hehe.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 03:23 AM
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Yeah, like ppl have said already...crank the heat...it help...A/C will bring on more heat and load on the engine. Also you could get a thermostat that opens a lil earlier but make sure u dun get one that opens too early especially if your car goes thru harsh winters. Also....check the coolant levels. I'm using Motul coolant and its doing its job...don't think it runs cooler but I might get a cooler thermostat down the road. Also, I hear BMW coolant is pretty good but you I'm sure OEM will suffice.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:45 AM
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You people are crazy. running 230tmp on an all aluminum engine is just asking for problems.... I don't care what anyone says that's looking to warp ****.

anyway if ur engine is overheating and you turn your a/c on and it cools down, check your cooling fan fuses and such. Hell just run your car sitting there with the hood open and check and make sure your fan turns on.

Yes most cars have a separate fan or turn the fan on when ur a/c comes on. That's why when u turn ur heater on and such your car cools down. It doesn't have anything to do with pumping heat outta ur motor. It's just your fan is running more often or you have a fan running all the time.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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you could always wire a switch to manuallyl turn on the fans...that way u can have the fan on whenever.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PauL500x
My friend turns on the heat when his car overheats and it works for him. Ive never tried it but he told me that the engine blows the hot air into the car.


I think that you are wrong about my Cavelier. Its a 2000 and it shouldnt heat up to 3/4 of the gauge and keep getting hotter. There is something wrong with my car. One of my red lights turns on in my car once in a while and its a picture of an oil leak or sumtin like that. Theres a lot of things wrong with my car (ABS light, brake light, E Brake dont work, 3 door handles instead of 4, trunk thats tied down...) and i dont care enough to get it fixed. Im gonna sell it and hopefully il get 2k when i fix some of the problems.
The car has a heater core, almost like a secondary radiator, which it blows air through on its way into the car. That's why it cools off the engine.

The first thing I would do is check to see if your cooling fan comes on. That's a common failure on Cavaliers (both my mom's and my g/f had it fail at some point). If you notice the temp rising a *lot* at lights and *only* going down when you're moving, you likely have a bad fan. (estimate about $200-300 to replace, incl. labor)
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Old May 12, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PauL500x
Is it really that bad in a black car? Will it be so much worse than a blue one because I know I want black but I dont wana sit in a car that is a moving heater with leather seats...
It does get pretty hot in the car itself but a good tint job will take care of a lot of the heat issues... but, the car is black and will retain heat anyway so it will be hotter(inside the car) than say a silver one. I use a window shade if I park outside ALL the time. So if you like burning your hands when you get in I would suggest you get a good tint and a window shade.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 04:02 AM
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as long as u arent running at that high temp for a long period of time (at a track or racing), you will be fine. the engine can handle spurts of that heat.
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