Anybody running these or have any experience with em? The specs seem very similar to the zzp 78lb springs. And at 9 bucks a spring, 16 being 144 it seems like a great deal.

https://www.patriot-performance.com/...?productid=200

 

they're dual springs so you need retainers as well where as zzp's are single wound so you dont

also patriot ones are 72 lbs

 

They are (Spring Pressure Closed: 70 lbs. @ 1.375")while the zzps specs are Install height 1.30" gives 78#, 76#@ 1.32") I bet at 1.375 the zzps are right at about 70lbs. But good info on the needing retainers. Guess im gonna just order the zzp springs. Lol. Thanks Elecblue.