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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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Popped out of 5th gear

So, while on our way to our weekend getaway Friday, transmission popped out of 5th gear. Any idea why it did this? First time it's ever happened. Never did it before 100,000 miles.

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We were driving about 60mph and let off the accelerator going through a curve with a grandma in front of us. She got into the left lane and we hit the accelerator to pass... not hard or anything, just normal acceleration. As soon as I put my foot on the accelerator, the shifter popped down out of 5th and of course the RPMs went up since it was in neutral. I shifted into 5th again and it didn't do it the rest of the trip.

Now, this morning, it was a phenomenal frog strangler. I mean, I couldn't go faster than 50mph on the interstate because of the downfall. Anyway, I get off the interstate onto a county road on the way to work and I shift from a stop, 1st to 2nd, and it totally boggs down and crap. It does it one more time from 3rd to 4th later down the road (like 15 minutes later). I'm pretty sure it was water getting into the air filter on my RAW CAI. Before you ask, I didn't get a dang hydroshield. It didn't do that going to/from lunch a little bit ago. I notice no difference in power/acceleration/RPMs now. Y'all think that's what happened? Maybe a little water in the filter? If so, is that totally bad or just something to overlook for now?

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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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didnt do it before 100,000 miles?! how many miles are on your car?
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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didnt do it before 100,000 miles?! how many miles are on your car?
103k now.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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I hate when that happens....JUST out of warranty thanks...

GL!!

Is it possible you just didn't sync it all the way in?
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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I hate when that happens....JUST out of warranty thanks...

GL!!

Is it possible you just didn't sync it all the way in?
Nah, we had been driving in 5th for about 6 miles until that point. I think I know how to drive a stick, TYVM
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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just got a dirty thought from that...... lol.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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synchros 9/10 times, my honda used to pop out of 3rd gear all the time, replaced under warranty though
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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just got a dirty thought from that...... lol.
LMAO! Please don't change the subject! At least wait until I get an answer then this thread is yours to jack, my friend!

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synchros 9/10 times, my honda used to pop out of 3rd gear all the time, replaced under warranty though
Figured you had a Honda...

This is the first time it's happened. And of course right after Powertrain expires POS.

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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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I'm actually being helpful here!

Suck my *****!

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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Grow a pair, darling
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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you're turning your thread into garbage!
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wantedSS/TC
I'm actually being helpful here!

Suck my *****!
Originally Posted by cgrammer
Grow a pair, darling
come on now lets be nice here.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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U started it when you said "Honda"

/threadjacking

Where are my answers?

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come on now lets be nice here.
We were being PG-13 there

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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cgrammer
U started it when you said "Honda"

/threadjacking

Where are my answers?



We were being PG-13 there
YOU ALREADY HAD IT!!!!!!!

it's your synchros!! seriously!
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wantedSS/TC
YOU ALREADY HAD IT!!!!!!!

it's your synchros!! seriously!
WTF IS SYNCHROS?!?!?! I'm a car no0b, Matt!

& does that explain the engine garble this morning, too?
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cgrammer
U started it when you said "Honda"

/threadjacking

Where are my answers?



We were being PG-13 there
yeah it was PG-13 but i could see it quickly going to R and then were right next to be X rated trannys
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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I wasn't insulting your driving. And you didn't stay how long you were already in 5th

After re-reading tho..You did say you were driving along and went to accel, so you must've been in 5th cruising. Sorry
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cgrammer
WTF IS SYNCHROS?!?!?! I'm a car no0b, Matt!

& does that explain the engine garble this morning, too?
If the teeth, the so-called dog teeth, make contact with the gear, but the two parts are spinning at different speeds, the teeth will fail to engage and a loud grinding sound will be heard as they clatter together. For this reason, a modern dog clutch in an automobile has a synchronizer mechanism or synchromesh, which consists of a cone clutch and blocking ring. Before the teeth can engage, the cone clutch engages first which brings the selector and gear to the same speed using friction. Moreover, until synchronization occurs, the teeth are prevented from making contact, because further motion of the selector is prevented by a blocker (or "baulk") ring. When synchronization occurs, friction on the blocker ring is relieved and it twists slightly, bringing into alignment certain grooves and notches that allow further passage of the selector which brings the teeth together. Of course, the exact design of the synchronizer varies from manufacturer to manufacturer.

The synchronizer has to change the momentum of the entire input shaft and clutch disk. Additionally, it can be abused by exposure to the momentum and power of the engine itself, which is what happens when attempts are made to select a gear without fully disengaging the clutch. This causes extra wear on the rings and sleeves, reducing their service life. When an experimenting driver tries to "match the revs" on a synchronized transmission and force it into gear without using the clutch, the synchronizer will make up for any discrepancy in RPM. The success in engaging the gear without clutching can deceive the driver into thinking that the RPM of the layshaft and transmission were actually exactly matched. Nevertheless, approximate "rev-matching" with clutching can decrease the general delta between layshaft and transmission and decrease synchro wear.

To dumb it down a little

They basically keep your gear, in gear. If they are worn it will pop out like yours is.

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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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the syncros deal with the tranny dont know a lot about that so sorry but this morning issues is probably cause the filter got wet, did it through any codes or just bog down
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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I wasn't insulting your driving. And you didn't stay how long you were already in 5th

After re-reading tho..You did say you were driving along and went to accel, so you must've been in 5th cruising. Sorry
Not a problem! I was just messin' w/u!

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To dumb it down a little

They basically keep your gear, in gear. If they are worn it will pop out like yours is.

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Has nothing to do with my engine garble.

Originally Posted by lightningfast5
the syncros deal with the tranny dont know a lot about that so sorry but this morning issues is probably cause the filter got wet, did it through any codes or just bog down
Nope, no codes... just boggled for a sec.

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Not a problem! I was just messin' w/u!



Has nothing to do with my engine garble.
I didn't see that Ms. Demanding .... I need more details (e.g. - when starting up, idling, driving, coasting)
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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WTF IS SYNCHROS?!?!?! I'm a car no0b, Matt!

& does that explain the engine garble this morning, too?
deff get a hydroshield for your intakes air filter. it not only keeps the filter from getting wet, but actutally protects the filter from all the grime and **** that gets in the inner fender well. The bogging was prob. due to a wet filter and the shifter popping out was most likely your syncros. 100,000+ miles on the stock tranny would do that.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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deff get a hydroshield for your intakes air filter. it not only keeps the filter from getting wet, but actutally protects the filter from all the grime and **** that gets in the inner fender well. The bogging was prob. due to a wet filter and the shifter popping out was most likely your syncros. 100,000+ miles on the stock tranny would do that.
5 points to this awesome member.

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5 points to this awesome member.

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thank you dear .... glad i could help
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Nah, we had been driving in 5th for about 6 miles until that point. I think I know how to drive a stick, TYVM
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