Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

but i am in ap physics cd which is a college level course and i have taken two years of automotive engineering and design courses. I can tell you with 99% confidence that gm does not even consider that a functional rear spoiler.

Originally Posted by selfinfliction

99% isn't good enough, i'm 100% sure it is functional. keep taking your classes and keep up the grades

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

i don't think you understand what functional aerodynamic parts mean in the automotive industry. i really think you are just misunderstanding here.

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

i don't think you understand what functional aerodynamic parts mean in the automotive industry. i really think you are just misunderstanding here.

Originally Posted by sushidog

I agree.

Sure it's fully functional. It's function is to sell cars.

Performance wise, it's a boat anchor.

Originally Posted by selfinfliction

i understand perfectly, our spoiler is funtional. you know what they did to the wing on the time attack cobalt.. (you know the one that turned faster lap times than a skyline gtr, evo 8's and suped up s2000's and every other car that ran against it), the only thing the team did to the wing was swap the actual wing part out for one that was flaired up a bit more to create more df for the track. same width, same side mounting brackets as the stock system. so to go from the stock car to a race quality wing, they only swapped out one part of the wing.. hmmmmm

Originally Posted by ReMz

turns out GM just hired some japanese physicists to develop a wing involving the "cop magnet" theorem.

i wouldnt want to say that the wing is not functional.... but i have a hard time believing that it does much.

back on topic... no, there are no rear diffusers currently made for the cobalt. i cant honestly see the need for that anyways..... are you planning on setting some land speed records with a 2.0l cobalt?

Originally Posted by HViper

I swear, people will argue about anything on this site. If you can not prove it you should keep your mouth shut. I do not now it the rear wing is funtional or for looks, but how fast are you planing on going to get that kinda downforce? Hopefully it will be on the track if not all I got to say is you are retarded. Going fast enough on the street where you need that kinda of downforce is only done by a complete moron.

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

the term functional means it was designed with downforce in mind. ill put 20 bucks down on your spoiler being about as functional as a peice of ply wood being stuck on at an angle. 99% of the spoilers you see on cars are NOT functional. very few actually have a functional wing and it takes a great deal of money into design and testing to actually make a functional spoiler. I think the cheapest car you can buy right now with a functional spoiler is the crossfire. some high performance cars have functional spoilers, but most companies don't even bother. Functional spoilers usually look like the rediculous fake ones you see on ricers. Big, ugly, and really wide. If your spoiler was actually functional, it would cost alot more money than it does. GM would not waste the time to make your soiler functional. keep in mind when people say "functional spoiler" it means it provides a great deal more down force at high speeds. adding it's downforce in weight does not mean it is functional!

Originally Posted by e to the x

Yeah that doesn't equate to downforce though.

Originally Posted by burntorange

You forget about the EVO and I think maybe the STI. The EVO's is for a fact functional, and especially the MR version!
GREAT ******* CARS!!!!!!

Originally Posted by burntorange

I plan on pushing the 200mph border. And yes it will be on a track thank you, I am not a moron! I plan on competing in the High Performance driving events and they get up there. Also, I plan on doing the Big Bend Event, and that can get pretty exciting!

Also, I plan on taking a vacation to Europe and driving on the Famous AUTOBAHN!

LOL! It is a project in the making.

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

lol i hope you have an ass load of cash if you are really planning on hitting the big two hundo!