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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 01:20 AM
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lol i can't wait for rebel to do my little project can't wait to see your car all done jr racing its gonna be sick REBEL FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 01:39 AM
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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So this is all working on the assumption that the stock head flows significantly less than what the cams allow? Sure would be a decent oversight by quite a few engineers who designed it. Must be a heck of a valve job.

If only someone had the flow test results of the stock head with stock cams and higher lift cams.
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OH there it is!

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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Witt
So this is all working on the assumption that the stock head flows significantly less than what the cams allow? Sure would be a decent oversight by quite a few engineers who designed it. Must be a heck of a valve job.

If only someone had the flow test results of the stock head with stock cams and higher lift cams.
i think its possible, as far as a 50whp gain thats a lil to much i think but who knows. i know on stock ls1's just doing an ls6 head swap is good for 20whp ported ls6's 30+ as well as afr's, add a medium sized 224 cam and ur looking at a 60+whp gain w/ ported ls6's or afr 205's. so theres a good possibility that the lsj sucks alot of ass that a good port work can yield to 30whp on stock cam's. what i'd like to see if there were any correction's made to the dyno before and after. cuz to me it looks like there were.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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mmm, ported intake manifold. I want. Subscribed.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Good work Mase...looks nice.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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i think its possible, as far as a 50whp gain thats a lil to much i think but who knows. i know on stock ls1's just doing an ls6 head swap is good for 20whp ported ls6's 30+ as well as afr's, add a medium sized 224 cam and ur looking at a 60+whp gain w/ ported ls6's or afr 205's. so theres a good possibility that the lsj sucks alot of ass that a good port work can yield to 30whp on stock cam's. what i'd like to see if there were any correction's made to the dyno before and after. cuz to me it looks like there were.
they are reading the peak hp and torque off a spike.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie
i think its possible, as far as a 50whp gain thats a lil to much i think but who knows. i know on stock ls1's just doing an ls6 head swap is good for 20whp ported ls6's 30+ as well as afr's, add a medium sized 224 cam and ur looking at a 60+whp gain w/ ported ls6's or afr 205's. so theres a good possibility that the lsj sucks alot of ass that a good port work can yield to 30whp on stock cam's. what i'd like to see if there were any correction's made to the dyno before and after. cuz to me it looks like there were.
yea just from seeing this makes me wonder what gains i'll get from a ported head on my 2.4 after i'm boosted
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
they are reading the peak hp and torque off a spike.
still think the correction factors are different between stock and ported head, intake and exhaust.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Witt
If only someone had the flow test results of the stock head with stock cams and higher lift cams.
Post them up.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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still think the correction factors are different between stock and ported head, intake and exhaust.
nope they are both sae
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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lsj, does that mean you think those gains from said mods actually made said gains?
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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yes 100% same dyno same correction factor. Take it for what you will.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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gotta admit, that' pretty damn impressive, especially considering that there have been many people over the years that have said that you can't gain a lot from a ported head, they said it was all in the intake manifold restriction.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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nope they are both sae
you're missing the slight variations in there.

the rpm = changed for a reason.

max power was read off a spike at 6500.

im really trying not to discredit anyone here. this is something that is really hard to swallow
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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well what was the reading before the spike, and why didnt they run it to 7k like the stock dyno run, amd if it was a spike of 10hp then who cares its still 40hp over stock
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
you're missing the slight variations in there.

the rpm = changed for a reason.

max power was read off a spike at 6500.

im really trying not to discredit anyone here. this is something that is really hard to swallow
are you saying how the rpm is not present at the bottom?
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
are you saying how the rpm is not present at the bottom?
the top
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
you're missing the slight variations in there.

the rpm = changed for a reason.

max power was read off a spike at 6500.

im really trying not to discredit anyone here. this is something that is really hard to swallow
Also in the stock dyno something pulled a lot of timing starting at what looks to be 5500rpm (cant tell cause no rpm on graph) Im not sure on its affect on peak but notice the dip at 5500rpm isnt there on their after graph. And being the tunes were supposed to be the same...
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by djt81185
Also in the stock dyno something pulled a lot of timing starting at what looks to be 5500rpm (cant tell cause no rpm on graph) Im not sure on its affect on peak but notice the dip at 5500rpm isnt there on their after graph. And being the tunes were supposed to be the same...
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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lol, shall i post some flow numbers?
I can see a car like mine, area's or dan's really benefitting from this (you too al lol), but aside from that the stock head flows quite enough for the stock s/c guys
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
lol, shall i post some flow numbers?
I can see a car like mine, area's or dan's really benefitting from this (you too al lol), but aside from that the stock head flows quite enough for the stock s/c guys
most of them never see the true protential of the stock motor as it sits anyhow.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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yeah I know, well I'm still working on finding it's limit, and so far haven't
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