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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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ok first off i feel like a real a hole for doing this but it was dark, late, cold and my newborn was screeming....

long story short i put a hose (which is coolant) where b hose should have been. when i turned the car on it ran hard for a second than stalled out....so i know the coolant ran into the sc(**** head i know)

what should i do? drain the sc? will it be fine? the car only went a total of 10 feet at most. and only ran for a few seconds.

i can turn the car on...it runs at idle. if i hit the gas it just shutters.....

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oh it's an 06 cobalt ss/sc 70k fully stock
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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That sucks i wish i could help you.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Try taking the all the spark plugs out, and turning the engine over to blow any coolant out of the cylinders. And clean the plugs off. I think you are lucky the engine didn't hydro-lock and cause major damage
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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just turn it on and let it idle for as long as you can
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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How much coolant is left in the reservoir? If there is not much left in there, your intake is full of coolant. You will need to take off the fuel rail and injectors, then stick a small hose in the injector openings and siphon the coolant out of the intake. I would also consider pulling the plugs and shining a light into the spark plug holes and see if you can see any coolant, if so siphon it out from the cylinders as well. If your reservoir looks like it hasn't drained much you are probably ok to just let it idle for a while and burn off any coolant that made it's way into the intake.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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not much coolant was left. could i have hydrolocked the engine? would it be ok to let it sit til saturday? so i should take the spark plugs out one by one and start the car to clear the them? what is the process step by step?

i'm cr@ping myself now thinking i hydrolocked it....how can i set my mind at ease? would your car turn on if it was hydrolocked?

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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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no it wont start... its locked up... no turn at all... ur find just pull the plugs and spin the motor by hand... its gona be kinda hard( get a nice breaker bar or pry to help you out) thats the best way just pull the plugs and hand spin the motor untill all the coolant blows out.... it will splash out of where the plugs go.

There u go lol \/ very true
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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remove the blower
remove the intake manifold
drain any water
remove spark plugs and spray a lot of brake cleaning into the combustion cleaner, brake cleaner evaporates very easily, so hopefully it will take any water inside with it, hitting it with some compresses air will help too

most of the water that wasnt sucked in, is probably puddled in the manifold
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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pull the plugs and make sure there isn't too much coolant in the cylinders. If there isnt too much, and like you said, it runs at idle, let it run at idle until it stops producing white smoke, which is what i bet it's doing with coolant in the cylinders.

If you can start the car, it's not hydro-locked.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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I wouldn't attempt to start the car, not with that much coolant pooled in the intake. Like I said at the very least I would pull the fuel rail and injectors and siphon as much coolant as you can that way. It would also be a good idea to pull the blower and see if you can see any coolant in the lower intake, if so siphon it out as well. You can probably get 95% of the coolant out of the intake this way. I would also pull the plugs and siphon the coolant out of the cylinders. You could try cranking it over and having the compression blow it out, but I don't think you will be able to get it all out that way, and it will make a big mess.

To siphon it out, I would go out and buy a cheap shop vac if you don't have one. Make an adapter to convert the shop vac hose to a small siphoning hose (should be pretty easy). The shop vac should have enough suctioning power to suck up all the coolant. If you don't want to go the shop vac route, you can get a siphoning hand pump, it won't be as powerful, but it will work.

I doubt you hydro locked it. With all that coolant in there the fuel would not ignite. I'm betting once you get all the coolant out of there it will run just fine.

After getting it going it would probably be a good idea to change the oil, just in case the coolant managed to get into your oil (very possible if it's pooled in your cylinders).

Good Luck
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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i just flooded my car out the other day and it hydrolocked. if u just started it, it can be saved like i did. remove all the spark plugs and suck all the water out with a wet vac and a small hose to get into the cylinders. keep turnin the key it will make all kinds of wierd noises but after about half of an hour of tryin to start it will start. white smoke like a mug. make sure to change all the oil. will take about 3 changes. use an engin flush on the first one run it for 5 mins, change the oil. run again for 10 mins and change the oil. repeat if necessary. i just got my car back together after flooding the whole inside but runs like a champ. also get some lucus oil stabalizer bc u have prematured the bearings. also z-max engine treatment will help prolong the life of the bearings.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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no need to change the oil three times in a row .... i would advise getting the coolant out as soon as possible tho.. what happens is when it sits in the cylinder it will seep past the piston rings causing all the oil coating the cylinder walls to wash down and leaving the cylinder walls unprotected... once all the coolant is out and if you are worried about possibly having washed the walls out then you can pull the spark plugs and pour maybe a cap full of oil into the cylinders but definitely no more than a cap full. and like every one else said your best bet is to just take the s/c off and get all the coolant out that way
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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pulled the plugs, dryied them. not much fluid in there. got it out. started it. it ran for a couple mins than stalled. cleaned the plugs again. than it stalled again. pulled the plugs and they are wet again. so i figure that they are puddling. so now i guess i have to pull the sc and upper intake.

how long should that take?
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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just pull off the blower... its four bolts and a a few connections the hardest part about taking off the supercharger is the belt imo.... be super carefull when trying to release the tension on the belt. u will need a open end 15mm wrench and you will need to apply alot of pressure on the tensioner part, i will strip out making it a pita to get the belt back on. you will also need a allen head with a ratchet.. sounds harder then it really is
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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ill say it....

dumb ass
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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whos the dumb ass... and notice every one else has been trying to give her slutions to this problem...... not bashing her.... read y dont you she stated in the first thread she has a new born and such. think she needs heat from you
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 02:57 AM
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LOL...

Good advice here, pull plugs, clean/drain everything.

I had to do this on my boy's accord one day after he drove through a deep ass puddle. Car totally locked up, we got it going and it's still running like a champ. You'll be fine.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 04:32 AM
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i gotta ask. Why were you taking those hoses off in the first place?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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i called my self a idiot you fool...don't need **** from ne one else. had to take all that stuff off to get my arm betwen the sc and block to get the oil filter socket out that fell between there.

Originally Posted by NOLAGSS
just pull off the blower... its four bolts and a a few connections the hardest part about taking off the supercharger is the belt imo.... be super carefull when trying to release the tension on the belt. u will need a open end 15mm wrench and you will need to apply alot of pressure on the tensioner part, i will strip out making it a pita to get the belt back on. you will also need a allen head with a ratchet.. sounds harder then it really is

ok what about the upper intake. i'd rather know what i'm looking at before i get in there to cut back on time... what needs to be done to get it off fast? what kind of new gaskets will i need?

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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ill say it....

dumb ass
I'll say it....

**** YOU.

This girl admitted she made a mistake. She said exactly what she did wrong and is asking for advice on how to fix the problem. So instead of coming in here and posting like a mature person(which you obviously are not) you try and bash her. So why don't you get out of the thread and let those who are helping help her.

To Kristen:

-There's no telling how much coolant may be in the intake manifold. So I would pull off the supercharger, and the intake manifold. IIRC you will also have to pull off the alternator as well to take off the intake manifold. Clean out the intake manifold as best as you can. Also, as others were saying, pull/change the plugs. Your car is not hydrolocked because it still runs. Once you clean everything up, put new plugs in, reinstall the blower and intake manifold. And then let it idle.

Hopefully that will solve the issues.

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ok what about the upper intake. i'd rather know what i'm looking at before i get in there to cut back on time... what needs to be done to get it off fast? what kind of new gaskets will i need?
I believe you will only need one gasket. And that is the supercharger gasket.

Also, he is talking about the tensioner. It's to the left side of the blower where the pulley is located. IIRC you could use a 14mm wrench and then push towards the motor and it will release tension on the belt so you can pull the belt off of the pulley. Then there's 4 bolts that need to be taken off that hold the blower to the intake manifold. Then the blower comes off.

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by G85 SS
I believe you will only need one gasket. And that is the supercharger gasket.

Also, he is talking about the tensioner. It's to the left side of the blower where the pulley is located. IIRC you could use a 14mm wrench and then push towards the motor and it will release tension on the belt so you can pull the belt off of the pulley. Then there's 4 bolts that need to be taken off that hold the blower to the intake manifold. Then the blower comes off.
its actually a 15mm, but its hard as hell.

a billion times easier was to press down with a pry bar and then just pull it off from the supercharger
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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thank you guys for your help. do that have that gasket at advanced auto? does anyone know the part number?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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They may have it at Advance Auto. Not sure though. Could always go in and check with them. Supercharger Gasket.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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k had to order the gasket from the dealership. no one else had it. have to wait til monday to get it. so it will get taken apart tonight and put back monday
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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i have take the SC off many times, if you are careful it is reusable
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