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shorty vs midlength header??

Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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shorty vs midlength header??

lookin for some advise.

I currently am running 60's, 2.6, zzp tune, GMPP exhaust, HF 3"dp, ZZP shorty header, water/meth. Is there any advantage to switching to a mid-length header such as the ZZP or CTI? I have to replace my POS random tech dp (cracked open again) so I am considering just replacing it with the CTI HF DP or just going over to the mid lengths. Big price difference though. anyone??

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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I don't know about 4cyl's but on v8's long tubes are where it's at. Noticable difference
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Short tube = more power n high rpm.
Long tube = power spread throguh the entire power band.

Long tube ftw.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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i have heard that about long tubes, but is the gain worth $400
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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$400 for a header? i paid less than that for 2 and they were jethot coated
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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where you get them from then?
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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I was talking about my truck
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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$400 for a header and a downpipe with options. I think they max at $500 after shipping, ceramic coating, all stainless, and a cat., assuming were talking the ZZP midelngth. Im sure the others are similar
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 12:29 AM
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We just got done comparing the shorty and downpipe to the mid length on a 2.4 and it was worth decent torque and a little HP. I'm not sure how the boosted cars would fair.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:41 AM
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yea the gain is worth it. i went from a tog shorty header to a clear image stainless midlength, huge difference overall. the biggest change was the low rpm torque gain and how smooth the powerband got. with the shorty it would be a dog till it hit about 3500rpm and then felt like a turbo spooling, it would then take off. with the mid length, i can step on it at 2000rpm and it just takes right off. high end power is better aswell. also at lighter throttle i dont have to downshift when going up a hill. top it off with an increase in fuel milage as an added bonus.

go mid length, you wont regret it.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:57 AM
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go long tube its just plain better
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharkey
yea the gain is worth it. i went from a tog shorty header to a clear image stainless midlength, huge difference overall. the biggest change was the low rpm torque gain and how smooth the powerband got. with the shorty it would be a dog till it hit about 3500rpm and then felt like a turbo spooling, it would then take off. with the mid length, i can step on it at 2000rpm and it just takes right off. high end power is better aswell. also at lighter throttle i dont have to downshift when going up a hill. top it off with an increase in fuel milage as an added bonus.

go mid length, you wont regret it.

Same setup I have for my car, and I must say it was the best thing I have ever done to the car, its so much more drivable now, and as you said, I find myself having to downshift less. Click on my signature for a link. Clear Image FTW!!!
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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everyone, thanks for the help. yeah with all the options the midlengths with DP run $500-$600. I think you all have me sold.
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