2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Ok guys I know the certainty of getting flamed is inevitable but this is my first car with a supercharger on it. I'm looking at the engine performance mods on zzp's website and have picked out some things I'm interested in getting. I also added my exhaust package to this thread. The reason I'm posting is because there are alot of skilled modders that have already done this to their balt and I highly value their opinions with that being said let the flaming begin.

On a side not I'm not COBE I have respect for you guys so please be gentle when you start flaming me. I'm not going to plastidip my rims purple or paint my calipers orange and add an orange stripe just want your opinions/suggestions/problems that you may have ran into and anything I have left out.

3 inch Stainless Redline-LSJ Catback Exhaust ZZ-3RLCB-3F-ZZRES Option 1: Bolts up to 3" flange
Option 2: ZZP 3 chambered resonator
Store: Ecotec Platform
1 $479.99 $479.99

Mid Length Header & Downpipe Combo ZZ-MIDLHDP Option 1: Manual
Option 2: 1.75" Primaries
Option 3: With Spun metal cat Downpipe - 2.5 inch bolt in exit
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Add On: 2.5" gasket for catback
Store: Ecotec Platform
1 $413.98 $413.98

ZZP Cobalt Stage 3 kit ZZ-STG3K-CBT Sending Core Option 1: Black 2.8"
Option 2: ZZP adjustable tensioner
Option 3: 80# injectors gas tune
1 $709.99 $709.99


ZZP LSJ S3 Cobalt Heat Exchanger ZZ-S3HE-COBALT Store: Ecotec Platform
1 $219.99 $219.99
*not sure if I have to do the stage 2 first or if I can bypass it and go straight to the stage 3 kit thats why I just put the stage 3 kit first

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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Id do a badmab header over a longtube, cheaper and a great product also a heat exchanger if u dint hsve 1 already
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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Id do a badmab header over a longtube, cheaper and a great product also a heat exchanger if u dint hsve 1 already
Yeah I know i need a h/e. whats the difference between a badmab over a longtube less restriction?
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Badmab is cheaper with great quality, ive nvr ran a longtube so i will not bash it but ive heard mixed reviews as wher most ppl are highly satisfied with the badmab...i havent looked at the longtube specs but id guess same as far as restriction
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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from what i read on some setups shorty's roughly gain around 11hp while lt's gain about 8 hp. however Lt's gain about 2-3 more mpg when added. This is what I read on here so dont hold that to truth.
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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the longer the primaries the more power you will make on the top end, the more you will lack/lose on the low end. what do you plan on doing with the car?
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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Ideally I would like a setup with about 285-300 whp not planining on going into the 400's or anything but realistically 300 would be ideal
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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you wont get 400 unless you go for a TVS setup. even with E85 and meth you`d be lucky to breal 275 with a good tune.
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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Please tell me y hed be lucky to break 275
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Squints
Ideally I would like a setup with about 285-300 whp not planining on going into the 400's or anything but realistically 300 would be ideal
thats deff a start. but what do you want to do with that power? Drag racing, autoX, or just a DD thats fun to kick in the ass every now and then?
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DD/drag
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 08:09 PM
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you wont get 400 unless you go for a TVS setup. even with E85 and meth you`d be lucky to breal 275 with a good tune.
Yeah I said I wasnt planning on going into the 400's. the car stock is about 205 how can I not gain 95 hp on my car?
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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300 on m62 will b tough but 275 is definately attainable
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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stage 3 kit, cai, exhaust package should get me around 230-240 hp with a good tune right?

im just asking i dont know if thats correct its just a guess

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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U should be able to net a little more than 240 thers ppl makin more on less
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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i didnt want to be cocky and get blasted if i was wrong. I have a friend that helps me tune and mod all my cars he has been telling me that once i get over 250ish wheel spin is gonna come into play. What do you estimate the hp gain to be with the setup i posted though and how am i supposed to minimize wheel spin?
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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thats deff a start. but what do you want to do with that power? Drag racing, autoX, or just a DD thats fun to kick in the ass every now and then?
I would love to do autox but id have to spend a great deal of time and money to get my suspension where i need it to be in order to achieve great results on an autox session. One day my friend one day I'll get there though
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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wheel spin is dependent on ur throttle control and sum tires
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 10:15 PM
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wheel spin is dependent on ur throttle control and sum tires
Is all stock for all I know. Last night I raced a camaro from a dead stop and spun going from 2nd to 3rd Not bad just a squeak

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Who's flaming you about getting a supercharger? They're pretty fun and different for the most part. Turbo's and V8's do have a good amount of benefits for sure, but you'll forget about it when you beat one of them. Plus cheaper.

Add stage 3 heat exchanger, dual pass, and a 2.8" pulley instead with that stage 3. That'd be around 280whp with a good tune. With what's there id say 260- 265 whp? little more with the H/E. Also I'd say just get the Midlength header-with downpipe combo from zzp. Save a little money and low end. Then use that money to help with the H/E and Dual pass. Just my opinion on it.

Also get motor mounts somewhere in there. One of the best things I did. Have to put the power down or it's useless to do that much.

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 10:53 PM
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Who's flaming you about getting a supercharger? They're pretty fun and different for the most part. Turbo's and V8's do have a good amount of benefits for sure, but you'll forget about it when you beat one of them. Plus cheaper.

Add stage 3 heat exchanger, dual pass, and a 2.8" pulley instead with that stage 3. That'd be around 280whp with a good tune. With what's there id say 260- 265 whp? little more with the H/E. Also I'd say just get the Midlength header-with downpipe combo from zzp. Save a little money and low end. Then use that money to help with the H/E and Dual pass. Just my opinion on it.

Also get motor mounts somewhere in there. One of the best things I did. Have to put the power down or it's useless to do that much.
Whats the difference with the mid vs the long tube as far as hp gains? No one is flaming me I just wanted it to be known that I wasn't just another COBE. I've built many cars over the years, however this is the first time I'm modding an engine that has a supercharger solo rather than with a family member. I love this car I've wanted one for years now I finally have one and im looking at what set up to use to get as close to 285-300 whp.
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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mid might be just a couple hp less up top, but the power band will be different and have a little more down lower in the RPM's. For 285-300 whp you'd have to do what I said plus using 80# injectors and tune for E85. That'd be around 300whp if tuned right. Other wise you'd have to get a TVS blower to reach 300 and up.
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:06 PM
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Idk if anyone has said it yet, but on the m62, you should get a 2.5 exhaust, not a 3"
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:31 PM
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no, no one has pointed that out. why?
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:40 PM
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Supercharger likes more restriction. 3 inch is overkill for a supercharger, you wont really see gains, like with the header, it will kill your low end the bigger it is. The three inch one is for turbo lsjs
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