what in the... I said if you take off the snout you need new sealant. Then you posted a thread about changing oil with out taking off the snout.

Why wouldnt you just contact magnuson and get a oil/coupler/sealant kit, its probably cheaper than buy them separate...like everything else that can be bought together.

 

The first link is changing the oil.. the second link is changing the coupler.. You do not need sealant to change the SC oil.. but you do need sealant for the coupler. You corrected me on that, i was just stating it.

Please read.

You go to autozone, and pay 4 dollars for gasket maker.

You go to zzp website, or GM, and buy 2 things of s/c oil.. and a coupler...

Done.

 

lol, wow... OK I said to change the whole thing ie. the kit. oil and coupler you probably need liquid sealant as well. Then YOU said no and posted a oil change only. THEN I said uhh no thats oil only and that a full kit should be done with a couple which requires the seal and you posted that 2nd link.

Start at post #22 and read down...

Ok so its $4 gasket, $10 oil x 2, $14 stock or $30 for zzp coupler. thats with out shipping yet if zzp doesnt offer free shipping.. so $55 if you went with the zzp...while with the kit from magnuson you get the exact amount of oil, gasket, coupler and probably insturctions for 50 (guess from what the TRD one was). And its Eaton approved, all of it the whole kit. Do as you wish but thats just what I recommend.

 

Where is this kit from magnuson? Magnuson does not have anything to do with our blowers. We are using EATON.. which is OEM stuff... We do not have an aftermarket Magnuson blower...

I misunderstood and thought u said u needed sealant to change the oil.. which is why i TWICE corrected myself, and said you dont need sealant for oil change, but you do for coupler..

You are acting like they are responses to things you have said, and they are not... They were completely different thoughts at that time. Which is why post 23 says "no need for sealant" and has a link for just changing the oil, and not the coupler...

 

Ah ok then we can straighten our own fiasco out. Glad thats cleared up.

You actually have to call Magnuson, lame I know but they dont have them to order off the site because they will only sell them if your car is over 36k miles supposedly from what one person said on another forum.

Also their kits come with, oil, couple, loctite sealant and a new drain plug and are like 30 bucks plus 5 for shipping. That was one quote I saw from a M45 SC which is the same as a eaton 45 on the SS right?

(805) 642-8833- Phone
or
sales@magnusonproducts.com

 

We use m62...

If they have a kit for the m62 like that, that would be great.. alot cheaper..

I have just never seen it, personally...

 

opps then, yes the magnuson MP62 would be the exact equivalent.

 

Yup.

 

here we go again... this has come up about 15 times over the past couple years. You do not need to change the oil in the sc. It's good for life. I have had the dealership confirm this through eaton. Many others since gone from this site have done the same too. We really tracked this down back in late 05.

Ask for a list of all fluids which need changing on your balt, they will just use your vin, and you will see it's not there. Change it if you want, but you dont have to at all and some may adversley affect the blower. Your choice, but completely optional. Hard to believe....

It stinks like hell too, enjoy a messy uneeded job :P

 

Yup.

 

from what I understood GM didn't want you to services it till 100k if you were on stock pulley. In my opinion if you are running a pulley smaller then stock the wear factor gets kicked up and you would want to change the oil a lot sooner then 100k.

 

omg like I stated before. the "life of the SC" IS 100k miles. Soooo if you do the maintenance the life should easily be extended. Talk to magnuson, given they will make money off the maintenance kits, I think a sub $50 kit is extremely cheap to maintain the SC and extend its longevity.

 

Documentation? I would have to say this is 110% false information. You do not need to change the m62 sc oil on an LSJ....period.

omg like your wrong The only people that will confirm you need to change it are those trying to sell you something. Have fun wasting your money, and if ass had an ass it would smell like used sc oil. There's loads of aviation parts , helicopter parts and all sorts of industrial stuff that go decades without oil changes.

 

hahha because oil never wears out right?.....ohhh the ignorance.

um the life of a SC is 100K with no maintenance. Of course they want to say that, then you have to buy a ALL NEW SC instead of maintenance...silly rabbit.

 

ohhhh the stupidity...shoulda stuck with the zoom zoom

Seriously, do it you want, but you dont have to, there's plenty more to be worried about... like the overflow relay pump. They go around 70 -80 000 km and one pull could spell the end of the lsj, but the sc oil will be all good

I will try to find some useful threads from the past for you. In particular the issue above.

 

I am in the preventive maintenance field and I really don't believe in the crap the dealer tells about not having to change your fluid the reason they want you not to change it is for the hope that **** breaks and you have to get it fixed by them, and the Manufacturer's are coming out with these suppose life time fluid so you don't have anything done and when stuff goes wrong you just trade it in for a new car.

 

Just remember that not any s/c oil will do and some adverstized will NOT work for the M62 although they may say "Eaton" S/C oil. This I know for a fact. And lets clear something up, I am all for preventitive maintenance, but I am also all for common sense too, take care of the important stuff first, then if you want to change your sc oil, go for it, but it's not needed. People dont understand just how long certain synthetics and oils can last for...

 

I'm not sure how a turbo mazda or turbo chevy have anything to do with knowledge about a supercharger....

I also think that SC experts and engineers that make them know more than yourself about maintaining a SC. I also find it amusing that you would actually listen to a dealer. I thought the general consensus was they didnt know much. Magnuson suggests doing a maintenance kit ever 60k miles on SC's and like stated the kit is under $50 which is an extremely cheap kit to do preventative maintenance on a part that spins all the time. You change your engine oil right? why wouldnt you change a SC oil, its spins just like the engine does. And if you dont know the properties of oil and how it wears out...you have nothing to back your argument.

 

This isnt my opinion , it came from eaton and many SC experts over the years, as I wrote above.... read.... Go ahead change it... its not going to hurt it. Its just not mandatory and there is a hell of a lot more to worry about...thats all Im saying. I also grew up with my dealership owners son who is now the shop manager and that family has over 30 years drag racing experience.... My uncle has built engines for them for the entire time. So as far as your amusement as to how I can listen to a dealer, I can trust their word over yours anyday.....

To confirm this isnt my word, we spoke to Eaton ...is that a big enough "SC Expert" for you? but what do I know... That SC is going to wear down no matter how much you change it .... just like anything else. Changing it wont extend it's life...

 

THe SC experts are telling us we do not need to change our sc oil... lol....

This did not come from the dealer, this info actually came from eaton itself...

 

If they drag race for 30 years...Do they have a blower on their drag car? Ask them if they change the oil on it. These SC experts are who? the dealership? the son? get real all they do is put them on and run them, they have no idea what was into making them and the r&d done to see how long they last and re manufacturing of them. Ill trust magnusons 30+ years of knowledge over anything you or these other kids say.

In Eatons eyes they want a blower to last as long as they can with out it opening yes, because then you have to buy a new one once its out of its life which GM, toyota and eaton say is 100k miles. I think they'd rather have you spend 3k on a new SC unit than doing the normal maintainanince to keep it going longer. That SC gets incredibly hot and the oil is going to break down no matter what. All that I'm saying is by doing the maintenance kit at 60 or 80k miles it will keep it running smoother longer, specially with all the people getting noise from the coupler. Im not sure how anyone expects a oil that gets that hot to be lubricating properly after 100k miles.. This is the same with turbo's theres the 100k "life" and they need to be rebalanced etc.

 

A supercharger used in NHRA and a s/c used in a chevy cobalt are TWO Completely different things...

You can argue all you want.. the facts still remain the same, You do not need to change the oil in the supercharger.

whether you think its a good idea or not, has nothing to do with the actual facts...

You keep saying you would rather trust the knowledge of the company, but your thoughts do not correlate to those of eaton... eaton says it is a sealed system that does not need an oil change... Since you are against this, you must stop saying you would rather listen to the company.. because they are disagreeing with you as well.

 

how is a nhra SC different? its bigger thats it. Maybe a different screw style but its a pulley driven SC.

I like how you say I trust a company that has been around making SC's just like Eaton for a similar time period but you can trust eaton and not be wrong, but I trust magnuson and am wrong? LOL You didnt even know the relationship between the two companies. How can I trust your knowledge of SC's to begin with.

Eaton made a oem, SC so that no maintaianence would need to be done for 100k miles. Yes the sc will go that long, some shorter some longer. But their whole deal is it has to last 100k miles then gets replaced with a all new SC unit. By doing then maintenance kit you can extend the longevity of the unit and keeping it running like new, because the oil and couple will wear out.

I never said you had to change the oil I said its recommended and a good idea. You thinking the SC will last the life of the car is beyond untrue. You need to get into your head that the SC life is 100k, after that Eaton says replace the entire unit. What you dont under stand is IF you do the maintenance you can extend the life.

Do whatever you want I'm done, unless the OP has a relevant question.

 

In bold is confusing... ?

Im pretty sure after you asked me if i knew their relationship together... I posted this...

If you are telling me there is no difference between a s/c that runs at about 60psi, and 18psi.... you need to do more reading.

 

Im outta here, sick of trying to help retards who just dont listen...
If you think your prolonging the life of your sc by changing the oil in it, great...

All I know is what I was told from both Eaton, a 30+ year race engine builder, a shop manager, and many others....