2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Is your "proverbial" wall the 8g/sec max that can be put into HPT for IFR? I thought the flow rate modifier allowed us to get passed that. actually i see your talking about more precise control instead of just using a multiplier

maybe custom OS could extend some of the stock tables? Could the ecm handle even larger tables?

I think im way outta my league here. lol
a tuneable level in hpt is 11k hz on the maf. there is a liit on how far one can go in the level of air flow. after this, is anyones guess. the "believe" the computer itself tries to compensate for it, but really it can't so it dumps fuel. someones car on here has already done this, hence why they are trying a different software format to see how that works out.


if i was going to build a a lsj car. first thing i would do is rip the stock computer crap out of the car. wire up an hks vpro and make it a return style fuel system. then, the only limit is my wallet from then on out.

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That's not sounding good for your sex life. Hopefully you are not making calculations while your ***** are out.

So on a less serious note what type of flow do you calculate for running 275hp/cyl?
i do my best work naked


ANYWAYS. 275 hp per cylinder?

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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
That's not sounding good for your sex life. Hopefully you are not making calculations while your ***** are out.

So on a less serious note what type of flow do you calculate for running 275hp/cyl?
good god! is that what you'll be making?
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CHARGDSS
.... Could the ecm handle even larger tables?....
If I understand the question correctly, the ecm OS is maxed at 64lb injectors, which is why we are going to a standalone.
I have been told that you can manipulate hpt by halfing all the values and raising them up again. I was also told for high HP that that option is "NOT" the way to go.
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....i do my best work naked


ANYWAYS. 275 hp per cylinder?
Yes, 275/cyl.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
If I understand the question correctly, the ecm OS is maxed at 64lb injectors, which is why we are going to a standalone.
I have been told that you can manipulate hpt by halfing all the values and raising them up again. I was also told for high HP that that option is "NOT" the way to go.


Yes, 275/cyl.
193.5 lb/hr or 2034 cc/min

tested at 58 psi rail pressure
80% duty cycle
with a bsfc of .65

you're fuel requirements are 4 midgets with buckets


for stupid hp, the stock ecm needs to be junked
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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hmmm... food for thought i guess
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
193.5 lb/hr or 2034 cc/min

tested at 58 psi rail pressure
80% duty cycle
with a bsfc of .65

you're fuel requirements are 4 midgets with buckets

for stupid hp, the stock ecm needs to be junked
Are we talking little buckets or BIG buckets??

Thanks.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
Are we talking little buckets or BIG buckets??

Thanks.
lol
the biggest you can fit under the hood!

if you are seriously planning on that much power, you might want to think about running primary and secondary injectors
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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lol
the biggest you can fit under the hood!

if you are seriously planning on that much power, you might want to think about running primary and secondary injectors
That is already in the works as well as dual widebands and a pyrometer on every cylinder.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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That is already in the works as well as dual widebands and a pyrometer on every cylinder.
good sir!

one of the local skylines has 850cc injectors, and 1600cc injectors. the 850's run till about 5 psi. then at 6 psi, the 1600's kick in. three modified aeromotive a1000 pumps. one to the 850 rail, one to the 1600 rail, and one on the return side.

if one wants to make retarded power, one must have a retarded fuel supply
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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so what will the limit be with a return line style with a 255 pump be?
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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the size of the extra injectors you feed into the ystem. Kinda like the skyline mentioned above. It probably runs a digital FMU like the aeromotive + fuel pump(s).
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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so what will the limit be with a return line style with a 255 pump be?
your guess is as good as mine. im only factoring the injector vs crank hp. there is other factors in this game as well. im still figuring those up, but im stuck right now due to the actual flow volume of the stock pump.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
good sir!

one of the local skylines has 850cc injectors, and 1600cc injectors. the 850's run till about 5 psi. then at 6 psi, the 1600's kick in. three modified aeromotive a1000 pumps. one to the 850 rail, one to the 1600 rail, and one on the return side.

if one wants to make retarded power, one must have a retarded fuel supply
What???
The 4 midgets were not a problem.
Even the 4 large buckets, not a problem.
But now I need to find 4 retarded midgets and 4 retarded big buckets???

I give up
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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What you think of this Mr. Smart Guy?

N/A
4~(0%-10%) = total outcome * 1.5 / L
6~(0%-10%)= total outcome * 2 / L
8~(0%-10%)= total outcome * 3 / L

If X = total displacment, what is the total outcome of a 2.0l engine without force induction?

Force Induction (based on 80% effc.)
4~(0%-10%) = total outcome * 2.2 / L
6~(0%-10%)= total outcome * 2.6 / L
8~(0%-10%)= total outcome * 3.9 / L

If X = total displacment, what is the total outcome of a 2.0l engine with force induction (based on 80% effc.)?
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
What you think of this Mr. Smart Guy?

N/A
4~(0%-10%) = total outcome * 1.5 / L
6~(0%-10%)= total outcome * 2 / L
8~(0%-10%)= total outcome * 3 / L

If X = total displacment, what is the total outcome of a 2.0l engine without force induction?

Force Induction (based on 80% effc.)
4~(0%-10%) = total outcome * 2.2 / L
6~(0%-10%)= total outcome * 2.6 / L
8~(0%-10%)= total outcome * 3.9 / L

If X = total displacment, what is the total outcome of a 2.0l engine with force induction (based on 80% effc.)?

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
What???
The 4 midgets were not a problem.
Even the 4 large buckets, not a problem.
But now I need to find 4 retarded midgets and 4 retarded big buckets???

I give up

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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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^ HAHAHA thats so funny.
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lmao, area and victory are cracking me up with this ****
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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lmao, area and victory are cracking me up with this ****
We'll be here all month.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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We'll be here all month. we deserve bigger tips
fixed.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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And we are part of the "Humour for + Rep" comedian tour.
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but i want - rep! noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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but i want - rep! noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooops, sorry
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Squish you are the man d00d! Once I get my exhaust done we need to give it a run and see if my injectors are a little happier with me now!
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by M-Dub
Squish you are the man d00d! Once I get my exhaust done we need to give it a run and see if my injectors are a little happier with me now!
not a problem man. im sure i can make some tweeks here and there to help them out a bit
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