Well, that makes a lot more sense then. Conservative Tune.



I like it.

You have the 5031E or the 5031R? E is journal bearing... R is Ball Bearing.

And you should switch to a Hallman Pro Boost Controller. They are ACE!

You should dyno it and lemme know your results. I'm too lazy to go dyno mine.

 

also for a lil 20g on 15psi i get no traction in 2nd lol

 

yeah in another thread i posted up how i liked that turbonetics replica but right before i left for DC it kept jumping around on boost levels. one second it was 16 one second it was 24 and you just never knew what it was going to hit. first few days it worked fine

so i got one of those hallman pro rx iirc...

question on that though, for the light spring and ceramic ball it says approx. 5 psi over stock. that is referring to whatever the wastegate is set on + 5 psi? or is it better to just use the stiffer spring?

 

Yeah, with the Pro RX, that'll be Wastegate pressure + up to 5 more PSI. So if your wastegate spring is a 15psi spring... you can adjust between 15psi and 20psi.

I run the Hallman Pro. I like it. I've added 12psi over wastegate with it so far. My new wastegate has a 15psi spring, so I won't have to add so much.

 

whats your current wastegate have? and whats the downsides of overdoing what the wastegate is designed for?

 

IIRC, the current wastegate (the one included with the kit) has an 8psi spring.

You can't really overdo what the wastegate is designed for... unless you are trying to dump too much exhaust through too small of a wastegate, but you won't have that problem.

The only thing you need to worry about if you were to ever order a different wastegate, is getting too high of a spring. With a turbo wastegate, you order it with a set spring.

For example... my new Tial has a 1bar (14.5psi) spring in it. I can run nothing lower than 14.5psi. I can, however, add a Boost Controller and run MORE boost. So if you order a wastegate with a 20psi spring... that'll be the lowest amount of boost that you can run.

I hope that I explained that in a way that someone else can comprehend.

 

yes... so saying your boost controller ALL the way down is a MIN of 14.5 PSI.... turning the controller UP will cause it to make...... PSI. since your making 14.5psi isnt the wastegate staying open when ever it goes above 8ps?

 

Cool, so is there a big difference in using the heavier spring than the light one?

 

Okay, lets talk abut my current set-up. The Wastegate Spring is an 8psi spring. There is a Vacuum Fitting on the turbo. If I run my set-up without a wastegate, I'd run a vacuum line from the turbo fitting straight to the wastegate fitting. To run the set-up with a boost controller, I connect a vacuum line from the turbo fitting, to the boost controller... and then another line from the boost controller to the Wastegate. If you run the car without a wastegate, or without a line connected to the wastegate... it'll free boost... and probably spike to like 40psi and blow your motor up.

If I take the boost controller off or turn the boost controller all the way down... the car will only make 8psi. So, when I punch it... the turbo hits 8psi and the wastegate opens up and dumps exhaust PRE-TURBO so that it can maintain the boost level at 8psi. If I crank the boost controller, like I have, what happens is you are, in a way, hiding the boost from the wastegate. So the turbo is actually hitting 22psi, but the wastegate is only seeing it as 8psi, because the Boost Controller is essentially hiding the boost from the wastegate. In this scenario, the wastegate stays closed until I get up around 22psi, and then it opens and dumps exhaust pre-turbo in an effort to maintain 22psi.

I dunno. Never ran an RX.

I'm betting that the only difference will be that 1 full turn on an RX will be like 1psi of boost... where as 1 full turn on the Pro is like 2-3psi.

 

ok but you said your BOV is 14.5.... and you just said you can run 8 psi... but before you said 14.5 min
im understanding

 

I don't think he ever talked about his BOV only about boost controller and wastegate.

 

No... My new Tial Wastegate has a 1bar (14.5psi) spring. Its not on the car yet. Its in a box.

The current Wastegate that's on the car has a 8psi spring, meaning that I can run NO LESS than 8psi. Once the new Tial wastegate goes on the car, THEN my minimum will be 14.5psi.

I can add more boost with a boost controller... but I can't take boost away from the Wastegate Springs Base.

 

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Tial is whats on there now im assuming.

 

Nope. The one on there now is a Godspeed, iirc.

 

is that bullshit?

 

Its not too bad. Its basically just a Tial knock-off. Hasn't given me any problems yet.

 

I think on the Pro Rx its 1/2 PSI per turn with the light spring.
I'll find out very soon though.

 

I think I remember reading that in the Instruction manual. So that's probably right.

 

i'll find out this afternoon... hopefully it's that accurate cause the one on there right now is 1/8 turn = 1-10 psi lol

it's like a surprise gift, you just never know what's gonna happen

 

You have the 5031E or the 5031R? E is journal bearing... R is Ball Bearing.

And you should switch to a Hallman Pro Boost Controller. They are ACE!



You should dyno it and lemme know your results. I'm too lazy to go dyno mine.[/QUOTE]


i have the 5031E journal bearing. and i will dyno it when i get my clutch done and the tune finished.

 

dyno that biatch

 

the hallman pro rx with the light spring only runs up to 17.5 psi on my car so no one worry about buying that kit. save your $ and get the non-rx

i'm installing the heavier spring now to resolve those issues

 

That light spring is perfect for me for now.

 

What is your base Wastegate pressure? 12.5psi?

 

it's 14 or 14.5, so on mine the light spring was only doing 3-3.5psi extra

swapped out to the heavier spring and it bumped right up to 20psi without any issues