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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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Thats how I ahve been running my meth injection. I have to pull the blower this weekend anyways to see wtf is rattling after a cold start. I will have to look at the rotors. I hope my VT isnt fucked. would much rather have to replace an s/c than tear apart my head...
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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If it is not recommended to spray before the rotors, why hasnt someone made a IM spacer with nozzle taps? Seems like someone should get in on this and make some $ while serving the needs of the communmity.
Like this?



Of course those are fuel injectors and not nozzles.

Josh, do you think you could help me setup these injectors to spray meth/water? I used to have a SMT-6. Now I wish I would have kept it.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Good info!
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bika
If it is not recommended to spray before the rotors, why hasnt someone made a IM spacer with nozzle taps? Seems like someone should get in on this and make some $ while serving the needs of the communmity.
ZZP and rebel both have them....
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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I guess that I am one of the guys that have no room for a spacer. Currently, I am right on one of the frame rails!

I am glad that people are saying that it isn't really necessary!
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bika
why hasnt someone made a IM spacer with nozzle taps? Seems like someone should get in on this and make some $ while serving the needs of the communmity.
reading > you
refer to post 16....
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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I guess that I am one of the guys that have no room for a spacer. Currently, I am right on one of the frame rails!

I am glad that people are saying that it isn't really necessary!
hahah yeah you don't count.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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Is the TVS still a contact desing like the M62, or are they like the twin-screws in the sense that the rotors don't touch the housing?
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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Zoomer... does the use of your spacer require any different length of belt? Say if you are already running the stg 2 belt... would you need to go back to a stock one?
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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"Raising the blower 1/2" will affect the belt length required. A smaller pulley must be used or your stock belt will be too short. A stock belt will work with pulley sizes 2.7-3.0. To run 2.6" or smaller pulleys you will want a shorter belt, larger tensioner pulley or our adjustable tensioner."
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ArielAtom
I guess that I am one of the guys that have no room for a spacer. Currently, I am right on one of the frame rails!

I am glad that people are saying that it isn't really necessary!
you just really love showing that off dont you?
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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So if the stock TVS pulley is 80mm or 3.15 inches. I would either need to buy a 3.0 pulley or a different belt? Anyone else have input on this?

Oh and are 60s enough to run a TVS on a 3.0 pulley? Anyone know? Area?
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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from what I have read, I think that 60s are enough to run the TVS, depending on several variables (cooling, meth, etc etc)
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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Oh and are 60s enough to run a TVS on a 3.0 pulley? Anyone know? Area?
I see 88% IDC with 60s on a 3.15" pulley. You will probably need larger injectors.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnboy12358
from what I have read, I think that 60s are enough to run the TVS, depending on several variables (cooling, meth, etc etc)
Right but a 3.0 would be a smaller pulley. So will it max out the injectors? And to clarify I do have meth, and every other cooling mod. Meth just isn't installed yet.

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I see 88% IDC with 60s on a 3.15" pulley. You will probably need larger injectors.
****.... do you have meth? Will meth make any difference? ....**** I am going to need 79lb injectors just to spray meth after the blower....

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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm5036
Right but a 3.0 would be a smaller pulley. So will it max out the injectors? And to clarify I do have meth, and every other cooling mod. Meth just isn't installed yet.



****.... do you have meth? Will meth make any difference? ....**** I am going to need 79lb injectors just to spray meth after the blower....
That does not include meth injection. Meth injection will lower your IDC.

Your meth/water mixture will determine if a 3" pulley is safe with 60# injectors.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ebristol
That does not include meth injection. Meth injection will lower your IDC.

Your meth/water mixture will determine if a 3" pulley is safe with 60# injectors.
Ok so I'm going to be running a 50/50 mix. Any input?
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm5036
Ok so I'm going to be running a 50/50 mix. Any input?
I have no clue. Try it and let us know. Your nozzle size will also make a difference.

I don't think there is one clear answer for every car.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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I feel like this thread is ending where it started.... is it ok so spray meth through a TVS... everyone speculates but no one knows.

Anyway where can I buy a stock sized belt that will work with that spaced? i am not dropping the cash for 79lb injectors when I already have 60s...
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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If you need the 79lb injectors, you should get them... Either way, as stated earlier it depends on so many factors that its going to be different for each car. I am by no means an expert though. And, if you can avoid it, I would not spray through the TVS. As stated by lsjwannabe, its only *designed* to push air through it, although you *probably* will not cause damage to it.

My post boils down to this -- its better to be safe than sorry (spray after if you can), and you gotta pay to play (buy the correct injectors for your application).
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnboy12358
If you need the 79lb injectors, you should get them... Either way, as stated earlier it depends on so many factors that its going to be different for each car. I am by no means an expert though. And, if you can avoid it, I would not spray through the TVS. As stated by lsjwannabe, its only *designed* to push air through it, although you *probably* will not cause damage to it.

My post boils down to this -- its better to be safe than sorry (spray after if you can), and you gotta pay to play (buy the correct injectors for your application).
Damn it.... unfortunately your right. would a less expensive alternative be buying a longer belt. Like the stock one? Does Crate Engine Depot sell one? Because I am assuming with a 3.15 inch pulley on a TVS that is raised by this tapped plate it will fit.... anyone have any op opinions on this? If not I guess I'm stuck buying a puller and injectors....
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ebristol
I see 88% IDC with 60s on a 3.15" pulley. You will probably need larger injectors.
Larger injectors is not a good way to do it if you have 20psi or higher. The fueling isn't accurate and the idle will be crappy. YOu should run the 60's with changing fuel pressure. 40's at idle and 70 or so under WOT. 60's will then be plenty, the car will tune properly and idle correctly.

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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Zooomer
Larger injectors is not a good way to do it if you have 20psi or higher. The fueling isn't accurate and the idle will be crappy. YOu should run the 60's with changing fuel pressure. 40's at idle and 70 or so under WOT. 60's will then be plenty, the car will tune properly and idle correctly.

http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...1015&catid=174
@ return style option price...
I stand corrected, now that I read that I do remember discussions about changing the fuel pressure over getting huge injectors. yay for lrn
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnboy12358
@ return style option price...
I stand corrected, now that I read that I do remember discussions about changing the fuel pressure over getting huge injectors. yay for lrn
Seriously I would love the return style fuel system but the price is way too high. Believe me I believe in "you have to pay to play" but that would cost about 1/3 of a TVS.... I already have a TVS and I'm not trying to throw more money away... a nice deal or a group buy would be awesome. I can't imagine that a lot of those get sold.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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the new regulator is 1/3 the price of your tvs? where did you get a tvs for $600??? i want one at that price
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