twincharge question
04-23-2012, 07:14 PM
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twincharge question
so the other nite a buddy of mine and i were working on the car and we got to talking about twincharging the balt. now i know there are a lot of little things such as oil lines, oil pan etc... but in theory could this work....get a turbo exhaust manifold with turbo and downpipe from zzp. then we were talking about doing some custom bent piping. could this work? and also would it be possible to run without an intercooler as i am currently running most cooling mods with the exception of meth, but that is being added very soon. this is a build that is a far way out but we were discussing and trying to see how much would go into it. any insight and opinions r greatly welcome. thanks in advance everyone!
04-23-2012, 07:40 PM
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i know they made a kit and discontinued. i am just trying to do something a lil different rather than just stay 1 or swap to the other. im sure tuning isn't the easiest but thats not so much the part i'm focusing on right meow
04-23-2012, 07:57 PM
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i dont remember any of the specs, there may be a thread floating around. ill check
there's even i guy who had a remote mount or that rear mounted turbo on the exhaust
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...roject-259176/
there's even i guy who had a remote mount or that rear mounted turbo on the exhaust
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...roject-259176/
04-23-2012, 10:57 PM
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Would be sweet just to show off that you built something like that but not really worth it. The whole point of the kit is so you never have lag and have the best of both worlds. However, you can get a turbo for these cars small enough to have very little lag but also be capable of making good power so it's just easier to do a turbo build.
04-24-2012, 02:24 AM
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that is a sick setup and wish it was stil being made. but since its not i was pondering if its possible to run a setup like that minus the intercooler. i know the bigger turbos push so much air so fast that it can actually run cooler air. just use meth into the sc to cool the air. is this possible or is it just the stuff pipe dreams r made of? lol
04-24-2012, 07:35 AM
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Agreed, same idea on this end. Although I really do not want a blown motor.. as far as tuning goes, Vince has been god to me so far and i am confident he could pull through.
As far as if we were to run the intercooler How/Where.
I have also been told that the better exhaust mani for are cars are the SAAB 9-3 04+ is this correct?
I also consider at times getting an "ebay" setup for the setup and upgrading the Turbo. Opnions????
As far as if we were to run the intercooler How/Where.
I have also been told that the better exhaust mani for are cars are the SAAB 9-3 04+ is this correct?
I also consider at times getting an "ebay" setup for the setup and upgrading the Turbo. Opnions????
04-24-2012, 12:29 PM
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I twincharged my car a while ago and am now straight turbo. Tuning was a little difficult but just being straight turbo is way easier in every aspect.
IATs were high, even though I had the stock pulley, or it might have been larger, on the SC. Not sure why since I had dual pass and an flow through tank. I needed a larger wastegate (I had a 38mm) for a little better control of the boost creep. I should have gone with a larger frame turbo like a 35R and a .82 a/r to slow the turbo from spooling so fast.
I did reach 20 psi at about 2k rpm which was cool. Problem with the tune is it is difficult to bypass the blower before 4k rpm since the computer cant control before that easily. I think I did find out how to do it though.
IATs were high, even though I had the stock pulley, or it might have been larger, on the SC. Not sure why since I had dual pass and an flow through tank. I needed a larger wastegate (I had a 38mm) for a little better control of the boost creep. I should have gone with a larger frame turbo like a 35R and a .82 a/r to slow the turbo from spooling so fast.
I did reach 20 psi at about 2k rpm which was cool. Problem with the tune is it is difficult to bypass the blower before 4k rpm since the computer cant control before that easily. I think I did find out how to do it though.
04-24-2012, 12:32 PM
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that is a sick setup and wish it was stil being made. but since its not i was pondering if its possible to run a setup like that minus the intercooler. i know the bigger turbos push so much air so fast that it can actually run cooler air. just use meth into the sc to cool the air. is this possible or is it just the stuff pipe dreams r made of? lol
Bottom line there have been many that SAY they are going to do it and few that actually do. If you do the kit correctly and stick with it you should like it but dont just throw the kit on and expect a magic. You will need a built motor or your just asking for trouble.
04-24-2012, 12:33 PM
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Agreed, same idea on this end. Although I really do not want a blown motor.. as far as tuning goes, Vince has been god to me so far and i am confident he could pull through.
As far as if we were to run the intercooler How/Where.
I have also been told that the better exhaust mani for are cars are the SAAB 9-3 04+ is this correct?
I also consider at times getting an "ebay" setup for the setup and upgrading the Turbo. Opnions????
As far as if we were to run the intercooler How/Where.
I have also been told that the better exhaust mani for are cars are the SAAB 9-3 04+ is this correct?
I also consider at times getting an "ebay" setup for the setup and upgrading the Turbo. Opnions????
04-24-2012, 01:58 PM
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You will need an air-air. I dont think the stock system and water meth will do.
Bottom line there have been many that SAY they are going to do it and few that actually do. If you do the kit correctly and stick with it you should like it but dont just throw the kit on and expect a magic. You will need a built motor or your just asking for trouble.
Bottom line there have been many that SAY they are going to do it and few that actually do. If you do the kit correctly and stick with it you should like it but dont just throw the kit on and expect a magic. You will need a built motor or your just asking for trouble.
04-24-2012, 02:38 PM
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a guy here in my club twincharged his 06, he custom built his charge piping and intercooler and everything. He cut away his bumper to fit that massive intercooler. he bought an ebay turbo kit for like 500 bucks and threw it on there with a canned ZZP Tune. it made 310 hp 300 tq lol.