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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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What else do I need to run E-85?

I have GMS2 with Injen Intake. I know i need bigger injectors and a tune. Would that be it? I may drop a pulley size down to 2.9. Would i need a H/X?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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The setup I have is 80# injectors, ZZP BRFS, and Walbro pump (and obviously a tune), but I have a TVS so I'm not sure how that changes for an M62 car.

E85 burns cooler than dino fuel, no cooling mods necessary.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Get 80# injecters and the tune and you should be set
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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I have 80's, 2.8, h/e, 2 step colder iridiums, 3"CAI, and obviously a TUNE. good luck buddy.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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So I'm looking at like $200 or so for the injectors and around $200 for the tune? And what do you think the power increase would be?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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I didn't do a before and after on mine, so I don't know how much of an increase I saw from it, but you should be able to squeeze a good bit out of it.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Yeah, especially with just a tune.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Id also drop to a 2.7 and enjoy the setup a bit more. A stock blower E85 car on a smaller pulley is a fun setup
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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Id also drop to a 2.7 and enjoy the setup a bit more. A stock blower E85 car on a smaller pulley is a fun setup
This

80's, tune, fun. That's all you need. Be a man and run a 2.6 or 2.5 pulley
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Since you're in the Eastern US, make damn sure that Maryland has enough E85 support before doing this conversion. Generally non-cornbelt states tend to be poorly supported for E85. In Western PA, we only have three publically accesasble E85 pumps, and all of them are in Allegheny County. So if I would need to refill outside of Allegheny County (Which I do often), I'd be out of luck.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
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80's, tune, fun. That's all you need. Be a man and run a 2.6 or 2.5 pulley
haha! hilarious!
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nighthawk243
Since you're in the Eastern US, make damn sure that Maryland has enough E85 support before doing this conversion. Generally non-cornbelt states tend to be poorly supported for E85. In Western PA, we only have three publically accesasble E85 pumps, and all of them are in Allegheny County. So if I would need to refill outside of Allegheny County (Which I do often), I'd be out of luck.
this...going to be tough as there is practially no e85 around us...as soon as its availble arond us ill be all over it...i can get a pcm ready for gas and a pcm ready for e85
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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haha! hilarious!
Hilarious how? Only reason I'm on a 2.8 right now is due to trading my TVS to a friend so I can turbo and a bolt is stripped leaving me stuck with the 2.8 til I take the time to tap it out.

There is no need to be a bandwagon wuss and stop at a 2.8 pulley. 2.6 is my pulley of choice for the past 4 years

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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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injectors and a tune
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 11:57 PM
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I would do 80's, return style, a tune, and what ever pulley you want. Cooling mods are always a plus and I would at least put on a dual pass.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 12:01 AM
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mainly what others said except i wouldnt drop to a 2.7 without more cooling mods. u should also look at getting an exhaust since thats gonna be the bottleneck IMO, find urself a decent header, ZZP DP and some sort of exhaust. I was running a 2.8 with exhaust cai and HE. i didnt drop to a 2.7 until i put my dualpass and flow thru option b.
also this may prove helpful to ya
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 12:53 AM
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Lucky bastard lol...I wish I can convert to E85 but we have 0 stations here in Virginia lol...Hey if ur tryna pulley down hit me up i got a 2.8 for the gm hub...good luck with the conversion !
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
Hilarious how? Only reason I'm on a 2.8 right now is due to trading my TVS to a friend so I can turbo and a bolt is stripped leaving me stuck with the 2.8 til I take the time to tap it out. There is no need to be a bandwagon wuss and stop at a 2.8 pulley. 2.6 is my pulley of choice for the past 4 years
i was saying that cuz you were like if you were a man...or whatever! and ever look at the mods i have??? oh look 2.6...
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by G11
i was saying that cuz you were like if you were a man...or whatever!
Exactly!

BTW, the last half of my post wasn't directed at you, but the forum as a whole. People regurgitate false info and myths like it's free money
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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i hear ya! im not starting anything i just laughed at your comment cuz it is true! lol
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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E-85 available in Annapolis and Laurel.
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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E-85 available in Annapolis and Laurel.
Just my 2 cents from experience, keep a gas tune handy as well if possible. Biggest thing to keep in mind is that you can only go about 200 miles tops on a tank F to E if you're doing mostly highway miles and/or you're getting decent gas mileage out of it. So the more you drive, the more you have to plan out your fill-ups. That's if you run it low.

Speaking of low, if you don't have instant access to a cable to swap tunes, always make sure you have at least enough gas to get you to your "back-up" station AND keep the phone number to both stations handy. Sounds dumb, but I learned this lesson the hard way. The station by my house ran out of E85 and I didn't leave enough in my tank to get to the next closest station, about 25 miles away, and I didn't have instant access to the HPT cable to switch to a gas tune. So I lost 2 days of work because I couldn't get gas in the car. If your primary station's out, call the other station and make sure they have it, last thing you want to do is drive across town only to find out that they don't have it either. In an ABSOLUTE PINCH you can put a liiiiiiiiiiiitle bit of 93 in the car, but you're going to have to drive it like it's in limp mode, low RPMs and NO boost.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by alleycat58
Just my 2 cents from experience, keep a gas tune handy as well if possible. Biggest thing to keep in mind is that you can only go about 200 miles tops on a tank F to E if you're doing mostly highway miles and/or you're getting decent gas mileage out of it. So the more you drive, the more you have to plan out your fill-ups. That's if you run it low.

Speaking of low, if you don't have instant access to a cable to swap tunes, always make sure you have at least enough gas to get you to your "back-up" station AND keep the phone number to both stations handy. Sounds dumb, but I learned this lesson the hard way. The station by my house ran out of E85 and I didn't leave enough in my tank to get to the next closest station, about 25 miles away, and I didn't have instant access to the HPT cable to switch to a gas tune. So I lost 2 days of work because I couldn't get gas in the car. If your primary station's out, call the other station and make sure they have it, last thing you want to do is drive across town only to find out that they don't have it either. In an ABSOLUTE PINCH you can put a liiiiiiiiiiiitle bit of 93 in the car, but you're going to have to drive it like it's in limp mode, low RPMs and NO boost.
Yeah... this is the primary reason I've yet to do E85. I did ask Trifecta if they could do the HOM mode of the Stage III tune to be for E85, that way I could switch between 93 (Regular mode) and E85 (HOM). But they didn't exactly reccommend that I do so.

I do recall seeing something on the forum recently about hacking in one of the E85 sensors from the FFV's in order to turn the Cobalt into one... but they weren't cheap.
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