What else do I need to run E-85?
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What else do I need to run E-85?
I have GMS2 with Injen Intake. I know i need bigger injectors and a tune. Would that be it? I may drop a pulley size down to 2.9. Would i need a H/X?
The setup I have is 80# injectors, ZZP BRFS, and Walbro pump (and obviously a tune), but I have a TVS so I'm not sure how that changes for an M62 car.
E85 burns cooler than dino fuel, no cooling mods necessary.
E85 burns cooler than dino fuel, no cooling mods necessary.
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Since you're in the Eastern US, make damn sure that Maryland has enough E85 support before doing this conversion. Generally non-cornbelt states tend to be poorly supported for E85. In Western PA, we only have three publically accesasble E85 pumps, and all of them are in Allegheny County. So if I would need to refill outside of Allegheny County (Which I do often), I'd be out of luck.
Since you're in the Eastern US, make damn sure that Maryland has enough E85 support before doing this conversion. Generally non-cornbelt states tend to be poorly supported for E85. In Western PA, we only have three publically accesasble E85 pumps, and all of them are in Allegheny County. So if I would need to refill outside of Allegheny County (Which I do often), I'd be out of luck.
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Hilarious how? Only reason I'm on a 2.8 right now is due to trading my TVS to a friend so I can turbo and a bolt is stripped leaving me stuck with the 2.8 til I take the time to tap it out.
There is no need to be a bandwagon wuss and stop at a 2.8 pulley. 2.6 is my pulley of choice for the past 4 years
There is no need to be a bandwagon wuss and stop at a 2.8 pulley. 2.6 is my pulley of choice for the past 4 years
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mainly what others said except i wouldnt drop to a 2.7 without more cooling mods. u should also look at getting an exhaust since thats gonna be the bottleneck IMO, find urself a decent header, ZZP DP and some sort of exhaust. I was running a 2.8 with exhaust cai and HE. i didnt drop to a 2.7 until i put my dualpass and flow thru option b.
also this may prove helpful to ya
E85EthanolPrices.com- Route planner
also this may prove helpful to ya
E85EthanolPrices.com- Route planner
Lucky bastard lol...I wish I can convert to E85 but we have 0 stations here in Virginia lol...Hey if ur tryna pulley down hit me up i got a 2.8 for the gm hub...good luck with the conversion !
Hilarious how? Only reason I'm on a 2.8 right now is due to trading my TVS to a friend so I can turbo and a bolt is stripped leaving me stuck with the 2.8 til I take the time to tap it out. There is no need to be a bandwagon wuss and stop at a 2.8 pulley. 2.6 is my pulley of choice for the past 4 years
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Just my 2 cents from experience, keep a gas tune handy as well if possible. Biggest thing to keep in mind is that you can only go about 200 miles tops on a tank F to E if you're doing mostly highway miles and/or you're getting decent gas mileage out of it. So the more you drive, the more you have to plan out your fill-ups. That's if you run it low.
Speaking of low, if you don't have instant access to a cable to swap tunes, always make sure you have at least enough gas to get you to your "back-up" station AND keep the phone number to both stations handy. Sounds dumb, but I learned this lesson the hard way. The station by my house ran out of E85 and I didn't leave enough in my tank to get to the next closest station, about 25 miles away, and I didn't have instant access to the HPT cable to switch to a gas tune. So I lost 2 days of work because I couldn't get gas in the car. If your primary station's out, call the other station and make sure they have it, last thing you want to do is drive across town only to find out that they don't have it either. In an ABSOLUTE PINCH you can put a liiiiiiiiiiiitle bit of 93 in the car, but you're going to have to drive it like it's in limp mode, low RPMs and NO boost.
Speaking of low, if you don't have instant access to a cable to swap tunes, always make sure you have at least enough gas to get you to your "back-up" station AND keep the phone number to both stations handy. Sounds dumb, but I learned this lesson the hard way. The station by my house ran out of E85 and I didn't leave enough in my tank to get to the next closest station, about 25 miles away, and I didn't have instant access to the HPT cable to switch to a gas tune. So I lost 2 days of work because I couldn't get gas in the car. If your primary station's out, call the other station and make sure they have it, last thing you want to do is drive across town only to find out that they don't have it either. In an ABSOLUTE PINCH you can put a liiiiiiiiiiiitle bit of 93 in the car, but you're going to have to drive it like it's in limp mode, low RPMs and NO boost.
Just my 2 cents from experience, keep a gas tune handy as well if possible. Biggest thing to keep in mind is that you can only go about 200 miles tops on a tank F to E if you're doing mostly highway miles and/or you're getting decent gas mileage out of it. So the more you drive, the more you have to plan out your fill-ups. That's if you run it low.
Speaking of low, if you don't have instant access to a cable to swap tunes, always make sure you have at least enough gas to get you to your "back-up" station AND keep the phone number to both stations handy. Sounds dumb, but I learned this lesson the hard way. The station by my house ran out of E85 and I didn't leave enough in my tank to get to the next closest station, about 25 miles away, and I didn't have instant access to the HPT cable to switch to a gas tune. So I lost 2 days of work because I couldn't get gas in the car. If your primary station's out, call the other station and make sure they have it, last thing you want to do is drive across town only to find out that they don't have it either. In an ABSOLUTE PINCH you can put a liiiiiiiiiiiitle bit of 93 in the car, but you're going to have to drive it like it's in limp mode, low RPMs and NO boost.
Speaking of low, if you don't have instant access to a cable to swap tunes, always make sure you have at least enough gas to get you to your "back-up" station AND keep the phone number to both stations handy. Sounds dumb, but I learned this lesson the hard way. The station by my house ran out of E85 and I didn't leave enough in my tank to get to the next closest station, about 25 miles away, and I didn't have instant access to the HPT cable to switch to a gas tune. So I lost 2 days of work because I couldn't get gas in the car. If your primary station's out, call the other station and make sure they have it, last thing you want to do is drive across town only to find out that they don't have it either. In an ABSOLUTE PINCH you can put a liiiiiiiiiiiitle bit of 93 in the car, but you're going to have to drive it like it's in limp mode, low RPMs and NO boost.
I do recall seeing something on the forum recently about hacking in one of the E85 sensors from the FFV's in order to turn the Cobalt into one... but they weren't cheap.
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