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whats a better cooling mod, H/E or Meth injection?

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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
That extra 18hp is going to still over work the injectors more than they are being relieved...

If your going to get meth, wait till you get the 60s.

If you read his posts. he doesnt live in florida anymore...

Yes, obviously meth cools more...

a heat exchanger still does its job.

Listen to what the guy has to work with. He doesnt want 60s becaue he doesnt want a retune, there for, he cant get meth, because he wont be able to get a tune.

a heat exhcanger will do the job of cooling until he can get 60s and a tune for meth.
If he was going meth there is no need to wait for 60's, If anything if would be better to run meth with the 42's cause you could lean it out some.

Although he needs 60's regardless.

Most of you guys are missing the point though, He cant get a custom tune. which pretty much means meth is out of the question.

You wont gain any power with meth without a tune unless your tune is already to lean or running to much timing, The power gain from meth comes from the ability to add more timing and lean it out some while still being safe.

Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
ok.... if he does want to get off the island and get retuned..... i would highly suggest him to go to a 2.9 & h/e...... that 2.8 is maxxing out those 42s on that stg 2 tune (which sucks). but if he stays with the 2.8 then i'd highly recommend getting the meth injection as it would do a hell of alot more cooling than the h/e..... but he doesn't want to get retuned. so this is pointless.
qft...

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Yes I did. When your injectors are way behond maxed out and you add a little fuel its amazing what happens. I don't recall you at the dyno that day either.
You must have been knocking or somthing before hand then, Meth alone will not gain power

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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by car_guy_09
If he was going meth there is no need to wait for 60's, If anything if would be better to run meth with the 42's cause you could lean it out some.

Although he needs 60's regardless.

Most of you guys are missing the point though, He cant get a custom tune. which pretty much means meth is out of the question.

You wont gain any power with meth without a tune unless your tune is already to lean or running to much timing, The power gain from meth comes from the ability to add more timing and lean it out some while still being safe.



qft...



You must have been knocking or somthing before hand then, Meth alone will not gain power
Yes it did. It fixed what the 2.8 pulley and the 42's messed up. Which means the meth gave me power.

Which if you pay attention, is exactly what he is running.

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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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lol you guys are so funny. All this worry about cooling the intake charge. You guys go to the weirdest ends to make your intake cooler so you can back to back pull or get better timing because of colder air (charge) going into the engine.

15 shot of Nitrous dry about 5 inchs before the maf sensor. It's so min nute that fueling it is not a problem and the bonus is nitrous oxide is sprayed at -65 degrees and drops the Intake charge up to 75 degrees.
Cooling problem solved...

Enjoy
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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lol you guys are so funny. All this worry about cooling the intake charge. You guys go to the weirdest ends to make your intake cooler so you can back to back pull or get better timing because of colder air (charge) going into the engine.

15 shot of Nitrous dry about 5 inchs before the maf sensor. It's so min nute that fueling it is not a problem and the bonus is nitrous oxide is sprayed at -65 degrees and drops the Intake charge up to 75 degrees.
Cooling problem solved...

Enjoy
Enjoy paying to fill the bottle. I know I wouldn't.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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lol with the NOS u only get cooling when u spray it, I need continuous cooling.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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for the absolutely best results: get off the island, get meth injection & dyno tuned

if the world is about to end and you can't get off the island: go ahead and get the h/e but i'd suggest backing off the 2.8 and go with a 2.9. that stg 2 tune is no bueno
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
for the absolutely best results: get off the island, get meth injection & dyno tuned

if the world is about to end and you can't get off the island: go ahead and get the h/e but i'd suggest backing off the 2.8 and go with a 2.9. that stg 2 tune is no bueno
I have a tune from trifecta that was tuned for the 2.8 pulley
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Its not actually a stage 2..

it is a canned custom tune with some tweaks (so he is probly already running less rich)
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bernandovelasquez
I have a tune from trifecta that was tuned for the 2.8 pulley
Include that little piece of info in the title. Your confusing the **** out of people.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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lol you guys are so funny. All this worry about cooling the intake charge. You guys go to the weirdest ends to make your intake cooler so you can back to back pull or get better timing because of colder air (charge) going into the engine.

15 shot of Nitrous dry about 5 inchs before the maf sensor. It's so min nute that fueling it is not a problem and the bonus is nitrous oxide is sprayed at -65 degrees and drops the Intake charge up to 75 degrees.
Cooling problem solved...

Enjoy
obviously your not familiar with the ss/sc intake..... there is no 5" from the maf sensor. and why the hell would you spray nitrous before the maf sensor? so you can get nitrous oxide on the sensor and cause it to **** up? you still have to tune for nitrous *******. but it sounds like a great idea to me! this guy definately knows his ****, listen to him if you want to **** your **** up

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I have a tune from trifecta that was tuned for the 2.8 pulley
oh well that makes me feel better *sigh*

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Include that little piece of info in the title. Your confusing the **** out of people.
haha your telling me man, i was shitting bricks

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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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lol, well what I got from trifecta was a tuner, I pluged it into that obd2 port and followed the instructions on the tuner.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Yea its a programmable tuner (vendor flashes the tune on the handheld)..

you plug it in, then it does the rest..
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
Yea its a programmable tuner (vendor flashes the tune on the handheld)..

you plug it in, then it does the rest..
exactly.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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i heard meth is a pita for caliberating and is also a bad drug but a good diet plan. more so, H/E's are pretty straight forward and sexy looking on top of that.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
Yea its a programmable tuner (vendor flashes the tune on the handheld)..

you plug it in, then it does the rest..
I was thinking he was gonna get tuned in the future.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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oooooh.... well send the handheld back to Vince and tell him to put a tune with 50/50 meth injection j/k
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 06SS ALL DAY
i heard meth is a pita for caliberating and is also a bad drug but a good diet plan. more so, H/E's are pretty straight forward and sexy looking on top of that.
It very well can be...

H/Es are like plug and play.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by invisible
I was thinking he was gonna get tuned in the future.
i was thinking he was rocking the gm stg 2 tune with a 2.8 pulley.... i was hearing baby Jesus cry
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
It very well can be...

H/Es are like plug and play.
The hell they are. Getting the hose of the pump is a PITA!

Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
i was thinking he was rocking the gm stg 2 tune with a 2.8 pulley.... i was hearing baby Jesus cry
Same here except I didn't hear Jesus cry. He neva crys!

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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
It very well can be...

H/Es are like plug and play.
you forgot "fill"..... its more like.... plug, fill & play
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Nitrous in 10lb bottle on 15 shot fourm will last at least 30 to 40 shots of 5 second sprays.
You do not need continious cooling as your not racing the car continuosly.
Spray only when racing to get the intake cooled and an added 15 hp.
Under normal daily driving the iat should not be above +30 of what the ambient temp is and will only rise above that if your racing the car heavy or doing full gear pulls. You only need cooling when racing the engine all out.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
you forgot "fill"..... its more like.... plug, fill & play, fill, play, fill, play, fill.....fill some more, play, fill, fill, play
Fixed.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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so now thats it;s all cleared up that I already have a tune for the 2.8, what you think now?? H/E?
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bernandovelasquez
so now thats it;s all cleared up that I already have a tune for the 2.8, what you think now?? H/E?
Meth Injection.




Naa go with the H/E if your not planning to get a tune for meth but understand that it won't hurt your car running meth "untuned". Might loose 5ish hp but no damage.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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yea now that we have all the facts..... go with a OTTP h/e kit
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