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I've heard some terrible things about TTP's tunes. I would advise to get a new tune and You'll probably pick up some hp.
That 50 50 thing is absolutely absurd.
You should probably get rid of the stock cat back for sure.
You asking about what bolts ons to put on... but wont put on a simple exhaust?
It does more than just give you a little bit of power.. it opens doors and allows for more power to be made.
You should probably get rid of the stock cat back for sure.
You asking about what bolts ons to put on... but wont put on a simple exhaust?
It does more than just give you a little bit of power.. it opens doors and allows for more power to be made.
The pump says don't push more then 50/50 through it so I'd rather not do 70/30 lol
I have pacesetter long tube headers, stock dp w/out a cat, and stock catback w/ flowmaster series 40 muffler. I peak at 19.6 psi. I kno I shud up grade them but for the money it would cost to buy the parts and have the dp fab to fit pacesetter header along with a cat back would b way 2 much for 2 lil gain.
I have pacesetter long tube headers, stock dp w/out a cat, and stock catback w/ flowmaster series 40 muffler. I peak at 19.6 psi. I kno I shud up grade them but for the money it would cost to buy the parts and have the dp fab to fit pacesetter header along with a cat back would b way 2 much for 2 lil gain.
? My car pulls like a sob in 1,2,3,4 n even in 5th! I have stright pipes so I don't think my afr is affected that much by readin at the tail pipe. He spent 2 hours on my car tunning it and about 5-6 pulls on the dyno. Yes my gas milage does suck but over all I drive like a dick every day and had this tune for about 5-6k miles and never had a prob.
I already got rid of the 2 most restrictive parts of my exhaust system. To get a after market exhaust isn't reli worth it. If I was gonna go tvs or turbo I would get a 3in but being that I'm not I don't see a real point on spending $600+ on a cat back to gain 2hp and be able to run more hp when I'm pretty much at peak
The stock downpipe itself is still a restriction.
And getting rid of the stock exhaust system is going to do more than you think.
Im still amazed that your asking me what other simple bolt ons can you do to the car and are refusing to put on a cat back.
No not at all dude sry if you took that the wrong way I was jus explaining my reasoning for doing eerything the way I did it. Everyone is free to say what they want to me I don't get upset or take offense lol
The pump says don't push more then 50/50 through it so I'd rather not do 70/30 lol
I have pacesetter long tube headers, stock dp w/out a cat, and stock catback w/ flowmaster series 40 muffler. I peak at 19.6 psi. I kno I shud up grade them but for the money it would cost to buy the parts and have the dp fab to fit pacesetter header along with a cat back would b way 2 much for 2 lil gain.
I have pacesetter long tube headers, stock dp w/out a cat, and stock catback w/ flowmaster series 40 muffler. I peak at 19.6 psi. I kno I shud up grade them but for the money it would cost to buy the parts and have the dp fab to fit pacesetter header along with a cat back would b way 2 much for 2 lil gain.
2. stock dp is very restrictive, even without a cat.
3. stock catback is ok, but you can still get a little more power if you go with a slightly larger pipe, you don't have to get a 3" to make power.
4. 19.6psi? on a 2.79" pulley? that tells me something is very restrictive. You can make a lot more power with less boost on that same pulley.
5. You can't ask for advice on what to get, say you don't want to build the motor or do aftermarket power adders, and then complain when someone gives you good advice, especially when we are trying to tell you your exhaust setup is not very good.
have fun blowing up on tune time ftl tune. bad gas millage? let me guess you have the same tune dan and everyone else gets. your maf isn't tuned properly b/c he doesn't tune cobalts anymore he just fiddles with the PE. cot prob isn't disable along with many other things in hp tuners that should be disable. i am sure your running supper rich during wot pulls. your car is running fcked up and you can get 30+ mpg with ease off a all out tune if you know how to tune a car.
1. fix your exhaust and go buy a header/3" dp catless / stock exhaust + a different muffler or something custom
2. once your finished with that if you don't already have a wideband go get one and instal it
3. go find someone to street tune you. if you want i can help you along with many others if you feel like trying to get hp tuners and tuning yourself.
*note to self (for you). do not go back to tune time performance and waste your time. ( i put down a tad bit more power than you did on the same tune you have prob by tune time performance with less mod's and 2.8 pulley. stock exhaust.
60's, 2.8, cx h/e, header/dp w/cat, stock exhaust, 1step colder plugs, $19 dollar old dirty filter. i made more power than you and my car was running on the shittest tune and prob made more power on gm stg2. i got hp tuners and got help from a lot others and let me tell you my car on 12degree's of timing compared to 19degree's on ttp tune pulled harder.
1. fix your exhaust and go buy a header/3" dp catless / stock exhaust + a different muffler or something custom
2. once your finished with that if you don't already have a wideband go get one and instal it
3. go find someone to street tune you. if you want i can help you along with many others if you feel like trying to get hp tuners and tuning yourself.
*note to self (for you). do not go back to tune time performance and waste your time. ( i put down a tad bit more power than you did on the same tune you have prob by tune time performance with less mod's and 2.8 pulley. stock exhaust.
60's, 2.8, cx h/e, header/dp w/cat, stock exhaust, 1step colder plugs, $19 dollar old dirty filter. i made more power than you and my car was running on the shittest tune and prob made more power on gm stg2. i got hp tuners and got help from a lot others and let me tell you my car on 12degree's of timing compared to 19degree's on ttp tune pulled harder.
^truth, ttp for the loss. And I can't believe you are going to live with terrible gas mileage, it's so easy to get GREAT gas mileage in these cars, and still make alot of power at the same time.
i am still shocked my piece of **** hasn't blown up. i really gotta get the new dp so it's not leaking the flange then go to the track and run a 12 finally. once i do that i achieved my goals and i'll just put the car back to stock and sell it. lol
with the help of ralliartist i had 43mpg.
however on my current tune which is all props to 04redline i get 33mpg in town w/o fiddling with anything trying to get better gas millage.
Last edited by BillyBboy; Sep 21, 2009 at 01:33 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Guys no one is gettin upset. Y does eeryone keep tellin me I'm gettin upset. Lol this is funny I'm eating chinese food how could I be upset. And jus 4 ur info the pacesetter I have is a long tube and by long tube I mean I had to cut my dp in half to get them on lol. If anyone knows a downpipe that will bolt up to a pacesetter header and a stock cat back then by all means post a link n ill order one since its so restrictive. And I use a lot of gas cuz everywhere I go I'm redlinein and boostin like crazy lol
Guys no one is gettin upset. Y does eeryone keep tellin me I'm gettin upset. Lol this is funny I'm eating chinese food how could I be upset. And jus 4 ur info the pacesetter I have is a long tube and by long tube I mean I had to cut my dp in half to get them on lol. If anyone knows a downpipe that will bolt up to a pacesetter header and a stock cat back then by all means post a link n ill order one since its so restrictive. And I use a lot of gas cuz everywhere I go I'm redlinein and boostin like crazy lol
*I use a lot of gas cuz everywhere I go I'm redlinein and boostin like crazy
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So you kept the ball and socket portion on then?
The pacesetter header is a midlength header. 1 3/4 prim 3" collector with a 2.0" exit on the socket portion.
My advice hack the end of and weld on a flange and make your own custom downpipe.
Exhuast depot made one for the pacestter for a while.
The pacesetter header is a midlength header. 1 3/4 prim 3" collector with a 2.0" exit on the socket portion.
My advice hack the end of and weld on a flange and make your own custom downpipe.
Exhuast depot made one for the pacestter for a while.
I got a pacesetter too, trust me, it's not long tube. It's a mid-length.
regardless, we've given you tips on what to do. I don't think anyone cares what you do with the new found knowledge that you were given. It's up to you man.
regardless, we've given you tips on what to do. I don't think anyone cares what you do with the new found knowledge that you were given. It's up to you man.
So ur sayin cut off the end of the header, fab my own dp and get a new tune! That's pretty much what I gathered from these 3 pages.
Now my queston is how big shud I make this custom dp?
Now my queston is how big shud I make this custom dp?
he is probably running stg2 timing so figure 19degree's. i am sure he is at 19 and if he isn't then it's probably 16.
you should really just worry about fixing the exhaust and also getting a new tune not from tune time performance.
a tune can make or break a car and with that tune you have on now it's breaking you because gm stg2 cars with a 2.80 would probably pull on you. just what i think from my own experiences with tune time.
you should really just worry about fixing the exhaust and also getting a new tune not from tune time performance.
a tune can make or break a car and with that tune you have on now it's breaking you because gm stg2 cars with a 2.80 would probably pull on you. just what i think from my own experiences with tune time.
Listen guy I'm not lookin 4 a fight here so calm down. All I'm sayan is all the shyt u were talkin that ttp does and doesn't do on the other thread never happened with my car. I spent a few hours there gettin tuned and doing pulls so I don't think there is a lack of care for my situation. Eaither way you want to find out if your tuned properly well w/ all my mods I shoud be traping around 106-108 so when I get my clutch fixed and I go to the track well c how I do. From what I feel the car feels great. I'm takin evos, jeep srt8, challenger srt8, every honda I ever came across, mustangs don't stand a chance. So as far as my situation I would have to say my tune is fine. Now maybe u and other ppl have had probs in the past and I'm sry 4 that but as for me I couldn't b happier.
I dunno maybe your better looking? I'm going to call matt and ask him my timming, if he scaled my injectors, if he tuned my maf, if he disabled my cot. Ill let you kno what he says when I ask him.
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Realy !
Realy it sucks .
Probably from above poster .
Thats funny PE is set then Maf dialed in to achieve PE . Your tune pulled harder On a dyno or on the street ? [ You felt it ]
20-22 degrees
Yes they would . Lean as hell
You my friend have an issue ...
1st you come to our dyno day and you have stage 2 with 2.8 I tell you your lean and it's dangerous 12.4-12.8 a/f
2nd you blow up on spray
3rd you go though 2 motor's
Then you come to me and ask me for a deal on a tune [ I hook you up ] Then we discuss that you have stock timing then you where to come back to spray it on the dyno and dial the car in ...
You never return ... Now talk **** about me and how I can't tune ... I have been nothin but nice to you and tried to help you and this is how you repay me ... Thanks for all of the **** talking and I'm sure you need a set of pistons soon ..
Realy !
have fun blowing up on tune time ftl tune. bad gas millage? let me guess you have the same tune dan and everyone else gets. your maf isn't tuned properly b/c he doesn't tune cobalts anymore he just fiddles with the PE. cot prob isn't disable along with many other things in hp tuners that should be disable. i am sure your running supper rich during wot pulls. your car is running fcked up and you can get 30+ mpg with ease off a all out tune if you know how to tune a car.
1. fix your exhaust and go buy a header/3" dp catless / stock exhaust + a different muffler or something custom
2. once your finished with that if you don't already have a wideband go get one and instal it
3. go find someone to street tune you. if you want i can help you along with many others if you feel like trying to get hp tuners and tuning yourself.
*note to self (for you). do not go back to tune time performance and waste your time. ( i put down a tad bit more power than you did on the same tune you have prob by tune time performance with less mod's and 2.8 pulley. stock exhaust.
60's, 2.8, cx h/e, header/dp w/cat, stock exhaust, 1step colder plugs, $19 dollar old dirty filter. i made more power than you and my car was running on the shittest tune and prob made more power on gm stg2. i got hp tuners and got help from a lot others and let me tell you my car on 12degree's of timing compared to 19degree's on ttp tune pulled harder.
1. fix your exhaust and go buy a header/3" dp catless / stock exhaust + a different muffler or something custom
2. once your finished with that if you don't already have a wideband go get one and instal it
3. go find someone to street tune you. if you want i can help you along with many others if you feel like trying to get hp tuners and tuning yourself.
*note to self (for you). do not go back to tune time performance and waste your time. ( i put down a tad bit more power than you did on the same tune you have prob by tune time performance with less mod's and 2.8 pulley. stock exhaust.
60's, 2.8, cx h/e, header/dp w/cat, stock exhaust, 1step colder plugs, $19 dollar old dirty filter. i made more power than you and my car was running on the shittest tune and prob made more power on gm stg2. i got hp tuners and got help from a lot others and let me tell you my car on 12degree's of timing compared to 19degree's on ttp tune pulled harder.
20-22 degrees
he is probably running stg2 timing so figure 19degree's. i am sure he is at 19 and if he isn't then it's probably 16.
you should really just worry about fixing the exhaust and also getting a new tune not from tune time performance.
a tune can make or break a car and with that tune you have on now it's breaking you because gm stg2 cars with a 2.80 would probably pull on you. just what i think from my own experiences with tune time.
you should really just worry about fixing the exhaust and also getting a new tune not from tune time performance.
a tune can make or break a car and with that tune you have on now it's breaking you because gm stg2 cars with a 2.80 would probably pull on you. just what i think from my own experiences with tune time.
1st you come to our dyno day and you have stage 2 with 2.8 I tell you your lean and it's dangerous 12.4-12.8 a/f
2nd you blow up on spray
3rd you go though 2 motor's
Then you come to me and ask me for a deal on a tune [ I hook you up ] Then we discuss that you have stock timing then you where to come back to spray it on the dyno and dial the car in ...
You never return ... Now talk **** about me and how I can't tune ... I have been nothin but nice to you and tried to help you and this is how you repay me ... Thanks for all of the **** talking and I'm sure you need a set of pistons soon ..


