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Old 06-10-2008, 11:03 PM
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when getting tuned

do i need a wideband gauge or would the tune shop have one? my friend said i would need one and i dont wanna spend 300$ on one
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if they hook u up to a dyno they have all the info displayed on screen, however it is recomended to get a wideband
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my friend gave me his gauge pod but i dont wanna spend 500$ in gauges...i dont know half the crap they read anyways lol

Originally Posted by tREBs
if they hook u up to a dyno they have all the info displayed on screen, however it is recomended to get a wideband
yea it would be on a dyno

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Old 06-11-2008, 10:41 AM
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Unless the shop totally sucks they can tune it without you getting a wideband, but I wouldn't be comfortable not knowing what my A/F ratio is. It's a good thing to keep your eye on when driving around, especially if you're giving it hell on a cold day.
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If you speding the money to tune your car, mod it, etc. don't be a cheap ass, do it right!!
Old 06-11-2008, 11:16 AM
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NO... most dyno shops will use a tailpipe sniffer type AFR...

Getting a wideband is deff. an important addition... if you are too cheap for a wideband don't tune your car!
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You don't need a Wideband. And after driving a car with one, it will just aggrevate you and drive you crazy because the damn thing wont stop turning colors and changing stuff. I hate them personally in the vehicle.

The Dyno shop can either tap into your O2 sensor bung, or your tailpipe. Save yourself the money, and don't buy the wideband.

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If you speding the money to tune your car, mod it, etc. don't be a cheap ass, do it right!!
And buying a wideband will make his tune dyno tune better how? They're not even going to look at his. And unless you have a way to LOG the wideband it really doesn't do you a heap of good.

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Comming from a tuner... that is the dumbest thing I could've heard....

Or get one without the "ricer lights".... mine just has numbers!
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Originally Posted by M-Dub
Comming from a tuner... that is the dumbest thing I could've heard....

Or get one without the "ricer lights".... mine just has numbers!
Okay, let's say this guy gets a wideband in his car. What F-ing good is it going to do him? He can't log the car, or tune it himself. So now he just has a number that keeps changing and he can't make accurate logs of AFR vs. RPM, AFR errors for MAF etc.

I didn't say anything dumb. Some people just think that if they own one they'll know what to do with it. Then they post up in the forums wondering why the number doesn't sit still and it makes them get a case of paranoia.
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Well... I would imagine if you don't know what the numbers mean it would be worthless.......

But... knowing what the numbers mean, you can know if it isn't running right... But if you want to tell people it's unimportant go ahead....
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He asked if he needs one. My answer is no. Only people who are tuning the cars them selves need one, and then they still have to hook it up to their tuning software and log it properly.

If you've got time to watch the numbers while flooring your car, then you car is too slow!
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you can do it either way. i don't log afr. never have. i just keep an eye on it. anything seems wacky or the car doesn't pull like it should. something is a miss. make changes and go from there. i use my egt more than a wideband anyways.
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Originally Posted by Area47
you can do it either way. i don't log afr. never have. i just keep an eye on it. anything seems wacky or the car doesn't pull like it should. something is a miss. make changes and go from there. i use my egt more than a wideband anyways.
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