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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Without LSD, why bother?

I am starting to get the modding fever pretty bad now, so I am looking into the future of where I want to take my car. And as of right now, my Cobalt is a one-legger. The second I take a turn, one of my wheels starts to flip out, and make smoke for days. And that is with just stage 2. If I plan on getting other mods to crank out even more power, it seem like i'm just going to burn out my one tire easier and easier, and eventually make my first gear useless.

So I guess my question is, should I even bother trying to make more power, when it will all go to just one wheel?

I have gone to look at some Cobalts with limited slip, but in the end, I am just not stable enough financially to get into a payment for a 2007. So I feel like I should make a choice now. Either hold off on the crazy power mods till I get a car with LSD, or just do it now, and have a true roll car that will never launch well.

I am interested to hear other's opinions, especially others that have heavy mods without LSD.

Also, is it worth just getting a tranny that has LSD? It seems that that would cost a billion dollars to buy/install, but I had been wondering..


Thanks for any advice/info/opinions...
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TKolb325
I am starting to get the modding fever pretty bad now, so I am looking into the future of where I want to take my car. And as of right now, my Cobalt is a one-legger. The second I take a turn, one of my wheels starts to flip out, and make smoke for days. And that is with just stage 2. If I plan on getting other mods to crank out even more power, it seem like i'm just going to burn out my one tire easier and easier, and eventually make my first gear useless.

So I guess my question is, should I even bother trying to make more power, when it will all go to just one wheel?

I have gone to look at some Cobalts with limited slip, but in the end, I am just not stable enough financially to get into a payment for a 2007. So I feel like I should make a choice now. Either hold off on the crazy power mods till I get a car with LSD, or just do it now, and have a true roll car that will never launch well.

I am interested to hear other's opinions, especially others that have heavy mods without LSD.

Also, is it worth just getting a tranny that has LSD? It seems that that would cost a billion dollars to buy/install, but I had been wondering..


Thanks for any advice/info/opinions...
If you plan to do a clutch upgrade, the tranny comes out anyways, so stick a LSD in at the same time. Problem solved.
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$1,000.ish Quaife LSD + clutch + labour

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Well, quaife has lowered the price of their LSD by about 400 bucks. It now costs something like $1000.

Still, you would have to get it installed and pay more for that, so my recommendation (without having to switch cars) would be to hit up ebay or post a WTB thread in the classifieds here on the forum looking for a tranny with LSD. Depending on the seller you could end up with a good deal on an entire LSD equipped transmission.

edit: OR what victory_red_SS said. lol

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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My #'s in sig. I don't have lsd but I wish I did. If the road is slighty uneven I don't get traction until third. When it's cold same thing. I'm sure lsd would help.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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These posts are kinda funny. Its not the end of the world if you dont have an LSD.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Holy crap they did drop the price! Still high, but better than the $1,500 before or running an open diff.
http://www.autotech.com/quaife/index2.htm
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TKolb325
I am starting to get the modding fever pretty bad now, so I am looking into the future of where I want to take my car. And as of right now, my Cobalt is a one-legger. The second I take a turn, one of my wheels starts to flip out, and make smoke for days. And that is with just stage 2. If I plan on getting other mods to crank out even more power, it seem like i'm just going to burn out my one tire easier and easier, and eventually make my first gear useless.

So I guess my question is, should I even bother trying to make more power, when it will all go to just one wheel?

I have gone to look at some Cobalts with limited slip, but in the end, I am just not stable enough financially to get into a payment for a 2007. So I feel like I should make a choice now. Either hold off on the crazy power mods till I get a car with LSD, or just do it now, and have a true roll car that will never launch well.

I am interested to hear other's opinions, especially others that have heavy mods without LSD.

Also, is it worth just getting a tranny that has LSD? It seems that that would cost a billion dollars to buy/install, but I had been wondering..


Thanks for any advice/info/opinions...


Lower your Boost Percentage in 1st & it Helps!
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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My buddy has an LSD, I do not. I notice little difference in straight acceleration. Exiting corners under hard acceleration is when you can feel a difference.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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at first when i saw people on the forums braggin in their sig about having G85 i thought "i don't care about some dumb seats" when i learned about the LSD i felt bad for not havening it


Originally Posted by The Sunburst Kid
These posts are kinda funny. Its not the end of the world if you dont have an LSD.
it felt like the end of the world when i looked up how much it would be to get an LSD
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
If you plan to do a clutch upgrade, the tranny comes out anyways, so stick a LSD in at the same time. Problem solved.
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$1250. Quaife LSD + clutch + labour
a lsd is like 1000 new how do you get 1250 for lsd clutch and labour
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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I would put an LSD in next. You will need a clutch at some point as well, so as stated above, install both when you have someone in there. I think the LSD is worth they money myself, whether in a payment of just shelling out the cash to get one and install it.

Originally Posted by Red2.4SS/SC
a lsd is like 1000 new how do you get 1250 for lsd clutch and labour
I think he meant 1250 for the LSD itself maybe?

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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i wouldnt even worry about an lsd until you start auto crossing , i hope you realize your not gonna cut a .5 second off your 1/4 mile time by just having an lsd.

and if you can only gain say .3 of a second in the 1/4 i STILL dont think its worth the 1200 dollars

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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i want to know
all the guys who got an SS/SC with out the LSD, like myself, were y'all offered the LSD or the "G85" package?

i remember building and pricing my cobalt on Chevrolet.com and i didn't see anything called G85, did y'all?

i go now on Chevrolet.com now and i still don't see anything about the G85 let alone LSD
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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I did once see the "Performance Package" on there but strangely I don't now.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sp0rkeh
i want to know
all the guys who got an SS/SC with out the LSD, like myself, were y'all offered the LSD or the "G85" package?

i remember building and pricing my cobalt on Chevrolet.com and i didn't see anything called G85, did y'all?

i go now on Chevrolet.com now and i still don't see anything about the G85 let alone LSD
You did not do enough homework on this one...............everyone in the USA had a choice to buy the g85 package. In Canada, the 05' Cobalt SS/SC did not have any choice---no g85 option at all----period. You have to do more digging than your seller as most of them had no idea about all the options offered. There was even someone here who bought an SS and found out it was not the SS/SC when it arrived!!!!!! Do your homework and learn more than your seller and you will allways get what you want.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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I have LSD but not the Recaro Seats. IT IS NOT A PACKAGE!!!
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Where is the location sticker to find out about if you have LSD or Not.
Ive been hearing just because your car doesnt have recaros doesnt mean you dont have LSD.
And Recaros are another option
Is this correct or false?

thanks

Like Dave said "I have LSD but not the Recaro Seats. IT IS NOT A PACKAGE!!!"
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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The seats are an option. Period. I'm not paying 2500 for seats that hug me "just a bit tighter". U can buy real racing seats for half that price. Plus, it's fake leather anyway(just like the stock SS seats). Everyone needs to get over the Recaro's, they're not a big deal.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by daves129
The seats are an option. Period. I'm not paying 2500 for seats that hug me "just a bit tighter". U can buy real racing seats for half that price. Plus, it's fake leather anyway(just like the stock SS seats). Everyone needs to get over the Recaro's, they're not a big deal.

I myself like the inlay look better.
And i agree with the Recaros like you said over piced and are ugly too
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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Not sure how it is now but..........the 05's g85 package.......yes it was a package, put the recaros with the lsd and that was that!!!!!
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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Anyway...if u're fat...u can't fit in those seats. They're too skinny to fit a fat-ass back. Enjoy.

That was 05 chief. We're in the present so maybe think about joining us. A lot happens in 2 years. Oh...did I mention they added a new color also. LOL.

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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I bought a victory red with black on black inserts and I love them......also I felt that black would hide the dirty marks that could stand out on the colored inserts. Just my thoughts. I love my cobalt and I still have the option to give it back in 09' if something happens with the cars by then. Pretty sweet if I do say so myself.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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Enough about the seats lets get back on the LSD like the threads title

"Without LSD, why bother?"

im interested in what people have to say about it
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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in 06 if you wanted to get the G85, you were gettin the recaros whether you like em or not! They were NOT individual options, they came as a package! And as of (i think)august of 06 G85 did not come with recaros anymore, because they DO NOT make the for the car anymore! (diddnt pass some new safety standards or something)

And I do have the recaros, and am VERY glad I do! Their not the highest quality seats, But you cant even compare them to the regular ones. IMO The quality in those seats are terrible! The support in the recaros is really good!
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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I'll invite you to look at Player_1's profile and decide for yourself.............It's a 05' cobalt bought in Canada.....without the g85 package!!!
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