ZZP all out m62 build What do you think it is capable of?
It's not my fault there weren't many changes from a generic 2.6/60's setup to obtain 400hp
It always takes me a sec to read your graphs because they are so different than the shop I use, so what are the final numbers. I can barely make out the printout. Prob my ancient laptop I'm on.
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what'd you do .. 2.4 spec / custom rod length or something and a .1 over bore? not that i can use it but interested on the block specs.. awesome numbers.. high compression is good stuff.. you're going the route of the LNF speced / bored drift sostice 11 CR straight meth over bored to 2.12 or something and pushing 360 or something whp on stock turbo
The ZZP shortblock will be available for sale soon, but it will start out as install only. It is based on a Gen 2 LNF block, the rest of the specs everyone will have to wait for. 
The single passIC kit will aslo be available for sale, but it will take a while to come up with enough cores to be able to keep them in stock.
2.5" pulley? No. that is to small.
I am not affraid to DD this car, it is a safe setup, but I dont try top speed runs with my car either.
The single passIC kit will aslo be available for sale, but it will take a while to come up with enough cores to be able to keep them in stock.
2.5" pulley? No. that is to small.
I am not affraid to DD this car, it is a safe setup, but I dont try top speed runs with my car either.
The ZZP shortblock will be available for sale soon, but it will start out as install only. It is based on a Gen 2 LNF block, the rest of the specs everyone will have to wait for. 
The single passIC kit will aslo be available for sale, but it will take a while to come up with enough cores to be able to keep them in stock.
2.5" pulley? No. that is to small.
I am not affraid to DD this car, it is a safe setup, but I dont try top speed runs with my car either.
The single passIC kit will aslo be available for sale, but it will take a while to come up with enough cores to be able to keep them in stock.
2.5" pulley? No. that is to small.
I am not affraid to DD this car, it is a safe setup, but I dont try top speed runs with my car either.

Nice numbers.
The ZZP shortblock will be available for sale soon, but it will start out as install only. It is based on a Gen 2 LNF block, the rest of the specs everyone will have to wait for. 
The single passIC kit will aslo be available for sale, but it will take a while to come up with enough cores to be able to keep them in stock.
2.5" pulley? No. that is to small.
I am not affraid to DD this car, it is a safe setup, but I dont try top speed runs with my car either.
The single passIC kit will aslo be available for sale, but it will take a while to come up with enough cores to be able to keep them in stock.
2.5" pulley? No. that is to small.
I am not affraid to DD this car, it is a safe setup, but I dont try top speed runs with my car either.

Im also eager for the single pass

This is the best news i've heard in quite a while
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Things that make you go hmmm. The sig worked fine on my 10 year old computer. I just got a new one and there is no change (except for the wider screen). That graphic in my sig you said was blue is actually black. The only think that could look like blue is the ground, but that is more greyish, which is what the salt flats look like when the sun is rising in the morning (when the pic was taken). You have me wondering if you're okay. How many fingures am I holding up?
This is what IE shows. Firefox has been crashing, patched it yesterday, and FFis fine. I see his sig there. This thing may be 10 years old, but my wife's out of town w/ hers and my desktop needs a new power source. Gotta use what I have

This build is looking interesting Tim. Stroking the motor tho takes away from it being a true LSJ. It's already known that increasing displacement shows higher gains. Common sense, history, and even our own 2.4's have shown that. 240hp can be had in a 2.4/sc is with stock pulley and basic tune
But as a full out build, using everything avail and just focusing on it as using an m62 as a power adder, it could be a nice build. For me, the "ZZP All Out Build vs. everyone" has lost it's LSJ vs LSJ aspect IMO
Last edited by WickedSS2005; Aug 15, 2009 at 09:32 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
i'll look monday.
a multi-mile pull @WOT can and does wreak havoc on a motor (EGT's, AIT's, ect) you always leave some on the table in the name of durability when doing public outings like this. its pretty embarrassing to toss a motor.
the pulley droped cobra guys can attest to that, they love there 0-to-160 pulls....just not the burnt valves after them.
traction coeF and things like it (DA) can also "force" you to leave more power on the table as its not usable at the slower start speeds.
Last edited by 06black; Aug 15, 2009 at 10:26 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
This build is looking interesting Tim. Stroking the motor tho takes away from it being a true LSJ. It's already known that increasing displacement shows higher gains. Common sense, history, and even our own 2.4's have shown that. 240hp can be had in a 2.4/sc is with stock pulley and basic tune
But as a full out build, using everything avail and just focusing on it as using an m62 as a power adder, it could be a nice build. For me, the "ZZP All Out Build vs. everyone" has lost it's LSJ vs LSJ aspect IMO
But as a full out build, using everything avail and just focusing on it as using an m62 as a power adder, it could be a nice build. For me, the "ZZP All Out Build vs. everyone" has lost it's LSJ vs LSJ aspect IMO
I was going to go twin charge but after seeing this I am stuck. What would be cheaper twin charge with all the options or this. how much will that stroker engine be alone.
and to ZZP what about doing an all out TVS build. A 2.3 with the TVS I see huge potential. I would be willing to do a all tvs build with my car the way you did this M62 car. My car only has 15K miles on it. Just Dreaming I guess.
and to ZZP what about doing an all out TVS build. A 2.3 with the TVS I see huge potential. I would be willing to do a all tvs build with my car the way you did this M62 car. My car only has 15K miles on it. Just Dreaming I guess.
I'm guessing the 2.3l is the result of dropping the LE5 crank into an L61 and keeping the stock bore...IE they just stroked it (this makes 2.277L, so about 2.3l). But its just a guess, so...yea
I am willing to bet 400whp with the TVS on the 2.3 stroker engine. Maybe take the compression down to 10.5 though. I want to go twin charge but if the 2.3 stroker engine with a tvs nets 370whp to 400whp thats enough power for me and I would get to stay supercharged.



