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ZZP all out m62 build What do you think it is capable of?

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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where di you get the single pass setup at. I live in AZ I need that single pass setup.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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It's not my fault there weren't many changes from a generic 2.6/60's setup to obtain 400hp It always takes me a sec to read your graphs because they are so different than the shop I use, so what are the final numbers. I can barely make out the printout. Prob my ancient laptop I'm on.
Found this in another thread... just thought it could be why you werent seeing the sig .
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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...four score and seven years ago, wicked bought the first laptop...lol
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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...four score and seven years ago, wicked bought the first laptop...lol
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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im impressed, whats this stroker 2.3 block you speak of .
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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320with what pulley? the 2.9 or 2.5 or what... thats crazy.

how much of that is the cams? and are you gonna sell them soon cause my engine needs to breathe
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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damn higher compression ftw

how far was it pushed on pump gas though? was it at its limits or could this be a daily driven setup?
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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interested in this block. i dont suppose you're going to get into the internal distribution department?
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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what'd you do .. 2.4 spec / custom rod length or something and a .1 over bore? not that i can use it but interested on the block specs.. awesome numbers.. high compression is good stuff.. you're going the route of the LNF speced / bored drift sostice 11 CR straight meth over bored to 2.12 or something and pushing 360 or something whp on stock turbo
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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The ZZP shortblock will be available for sale soon, but it will start out as install only. It is based on a Gen 2 LNF block, the rest of the specs everyone will have to wait for.
The single passIC kit will aslo be available for sale, but it will take a while to come up with enough cores to be able to keep them in stock.
2.5" pulley? No. that is to small.
I am not affraid to DD this car, it is a safe setup, but I dont try top speed runs with my car either.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Tim
The ZZP shortblock will be available for sale soon, but it will start out as install only. It is based on a Gen 2 LNF block, the rest of the specs everyone will have to wait for.
The single passIC kit will aslo be available for sale, but it will take a while to come up with enough cores to be able to keep them in stock.
2.5" pulley? No. that is to small.
I am not affraid to DD this car, it is a safe setup, but I dont try top speed runs with my car either.
Rofl, those secret 'specs' are easy to figure out.

Nice numbers.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Tim
The ZZP shortblock will be available for sale soon, but it will start out as install only. It is based on a Gen 2 LNF block, the rest of the specs everyone will have to wait for.
The single passIC kit will aslo be available for sale, but it will take a while to come up with enough cores to be able to keep them in stock.
2.5" pulley? No. that is to small.
I am not affraid to DD this car, it is a safe setup, but I dont try top speed runs with my car either.
I'm looking forward to a short block for sale (shipped of course). I'm assuming fully forged rotating assembly?

Im also eager for the single pass

This is the best news i've heard in quite a while
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Things that make you go hmmm. The sig worked fine on my 10 year old computer. I just got a new one and there is no change (except for the wider screen). That graphic in my sig you said was blue is actually black. The only think that could look like blue is the ground, but that is more greyish, which is what the salt flats look like when the sun is rising in the morning (when the pic was taken). You have me wondering if you're okay. How many fingures am I holding up?
None. Technically. I'm telling you there is nothing afer the red wording. Take it or leave it

This is what IE shows. Firefox has been crashing, patched it yesterday, and FFis fine. I see his sig there. This thing may be 10 years old, but my wife's out of town w/ hers and my desktop needs a new power source. Gotta use what I have



This build is looking interesting Tim. Stroking the motor tho takes away from it being a true LSJ. It's already known that increasing displacement shows higher gains. Common sense, history, and even our own 2.4's have shown that. 240hp can be had in a 2.4/sc is with stock pulley and basic tune

But as a full out build, using everything avail and just focusing on it as using an m62 as a power adder, it could be a nice build. For me, the "ZZP All Out Build vs. everyone" has lost it's LSJ vs LSJ aspect IMO

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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by domin8_gt
Iirc, that car was only good for the 150mph club. The actual distance for that is 2 miles to get up to speed, and 1/4 mile for the trap. That really isn't that far. Trust me, I know. See my sig.
i was out there for the HHR runs, and the so-cal car went 196.xx this year. i honestly dont know what it did last year on the old power plant.

i'll look monday.


a multi-mile pull @WOT can and does wreak havoc on a motor (EGT's, AIT's, ect) you always leave some on the table in the name of durability when doing public outings like this. its pretty embarrassing to toss a motor.

the pulley droped cobra guys can attest to that, they love there 0-to-160 pulls....just not the burnt valves after them.

traction coeF and things like it (DA) can also "force" you to leave more power on the table as its not usable at the slower start speeds.

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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
This build is looking interesting Tim. Stroking the motor tho takes away from it being a true LSJ. It's already known that increasing displacement shows higher gains. Common sense, history, and even our own 2.4's have shown that. 240hp can be had in a 2.4/sc is with stock pulley and basic tune

But as a full out build, using everything avail and just focusing on it as using an m62 as a power adder, it could be a nice build. For me, the "ZZP All Out Build vs. everyone" has lost it's LSJ vs LSJ aspect IMO
You are correct, but Tim isn't building his car to compete with everyone. He's building it to pioneer a new mod path for ZZP customers. We ran Ryan's car with a stock LSJ to make a comparison. Since Ryan ran 12.3s, we now know that Tim should be shooting for 11s.
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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isn't it nice to build a car for yourself, and not care what someone else thinks?

this is not a smart ass reply, just an honest question
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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I was going to go twin charge but after seeing this I am stuck. What would be cheaper twin charge with all the options or this. how much will that stroker engine be alone.

and to ZZP what about doing an all out TVS build. A 2.3 with the TVS I see huge potential. I would be willing to do a all tvs build with my car the way you did this M62 car. My car only has 15K miles on it. Just Dreaming I guess.
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 01:24 AM
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note to zzp:

i do like the bigger CI.

stroke or bore?
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 01:56 AM
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note to zzp:

i do like the bigger CI.

stroke or bore?
i'd think both.. but i'm not possitive the race motors are bored to 2.16L or something you probably know more about them then i do
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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i'd think both.. but i'm not possitive the race motors are bored to 2.16L or something you probably know more about them then i do
yea, theyre bored to 2.16l via 89mm x 89mm
I'm guessing the 2.3l is the result of dropping the LE5 crank into an L61 and keeping the stock bore...IE they just stroked it (this makes 2.277L, so about 2.3l). But its just a guess, so...yea
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 03:19 AM
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How about doing this with the tvs zzp? Or is that a whole different project?
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by XTC_916
How about doing this with the tvs zzp? Or is that a whole different project?
i have a feeling they wont do it... ZZP seems to be kind of anti-TVS. Of course this build would still be a direct swap for a TVS build, so it can be done and tested cheaply.
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 04:15 AM
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I am willing to bet 400whp with the TVS on the 2.3 stroker engine. Maybe take the compression down to 10.5 though. I want to go twin charge but if the 2.3 stroker engine with a tvs nets 370whp to 400whp thats enough power for me and I would get to stay supercharged.
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