ZZP or Hahn turbo
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From: Boynton Beach, Fl
area is the TVS guy... Not sure if hell just do anything but make more fun at everyone...
Alot of hahn stage 5's are poppin up... The full blown turbo is just the way to go... I mean the instant power is cool and all, but its not an instant 350hp, its like a stock pull... and if there were 2 cars at the same hp, im still gonna say the hahn is gonna take it.
Alot of hahn stage 5's are poppin up... The full blown turbo is just the way to go... I mean the instant power is cool and all, but its not an instant 350hp, its like a stock pull... and if there were 2 cars at the same hp, im still gonna say the hahn is gonna take it.
It's amazing so many people know so much about the ZZP twin charged kit and have had so many problems with it when we've only done one on a customer car. So yeah, people in this thread are lying...bad
ZZP does not turn down the knock sensors in our PCMs. That post is bullshit as most are and I'm not even sure why so many people are spreading false information here. I'm reading about my company as if we're someone else. Damn near has me wondering who ZZP is reading about all these posts.
The twin charged kit does not need 'retuning', it doesn' have reliability issues, tuning issues or anything else. Just get it installed and enjoy it. There are only 2 adjustments which never need to be changed. They are both boost control.
Our test car outdyno'd the hahn kit and people said we we're lying and it was just that one car. We did a customer's car and hit 400WHP easily. Then people just started lying about something else. This message forum is rediculous. ZZPerformance has the world's fastest 3800 and we're working on many parts for the Cobalt. Turbo kits included. We built a 9 second FWD twin charged Grand Prix in one month.
We have 3 different kits in the works and if you want to come get one installed, we'll make a believer out of you. It will make more power, run better and cost less than what other companies are offering. The car will be tuned (no need to retune). You'll have a before and after dyno chart as well as a warranty guaranteeing you a flawless setup. You can ignore the posts in this thread as they are not true or simply ask for more information. We can give you the settings on our PCM to prove we don't change knock settings and I would encourage you to ignore the BS and ask for more details to see that the posters are really just spreading baseless rumors. You'll have a better running, faster car for more than a grand less than other companies just for checking into it.
ZZP does not turn down the knock sensors in our PCMs. That post is bullshit as most are and I'm not even sure why so many people are spreading false information here. I'm reading about my company as if we're someone else. Damn near has me wondering who ZZP is reading about all these posts.
The twin charged kit does not need 'retuning', it doesn' have reliability issues, tuning issues or anything else. Just get it installed and enjoy it. There are only 2 adjustments which never need to be changed. They are both boost control.
Our test car outdyno'd the hahn kit and people said we we're lying and it was just that one car. We did a customer's car and hit 400WHP easily. Then people just started lying about something else. This message forum is rediculous. ZZPerformance has the world's fastest 3800 and we're working on many parts for the Cobalt. Turbo kits included. We built a 9 second FWD twin charged Grand Prix in one month.
We have 3 different kits in the works and if you want to come get one installed, we'll make a believer out of you. It will make more power, run better and cost less than what other companies are offering. The car will be tuned (no need to retune). You'll have a before and after dyno chart as well as a warranty guaranteeing you a flawless setup. You can ignore the posts in this thread as they are not true or simply ask for more information. We can give you the settings on our PCM to prove we don't change knock settings and I would encourage you to ignore the BS and ask for more details to see that the posters are really just spreading baseless rumors. You'll have a better running, faster car for more than a grand less than other companies just for checking into it.
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It's amazing so many people know so much about the ZZP twin charged kit and have had so many problems with it when we've only done one on a customer car. So yeah, people in this thread are lying...bad
ZZP does not turn down the knock sensors in our PCMs. That post is bullshit as most are and I'm not even sure why so many people are spreading false information here. I'm reading about my company as if we're someone else. Damn near has me wondering who ZZP is reading about all these posts.
The twin charged kit does not need 'retuning', it doesn' have reliability issues, tuning issues or anything else. Just get it installed and enjoy it. There are only 2 adjustments which never need to be changed. They are both boost control.
Our test car outdyno'd the hahn kit and people said we we're lying and it was just that one car. We did a customer's car and hit 400WHP easily. Then people just started lying about something else. This message forum is rediculous. ZZPerformance has the world's fastest 3800 and we're working on many parts for the Cobalt. Turbo kits included. We built a 9 second FWD twin charged Grand Prix in one month.
We have 3 different kits in the works and if you want to come get one installed, we'll make a believer out of you. It will make more power, run better and cost less than what other companies are offering. The car will be tuned (no need to retune). You'll have a before and after dyno chart as well as a warranty guaranteeing you a flawless setup. You can ignore the posts in this thread as they are not true or simply ask for more information. We can give you the settings on our PCM to prove we don't change knock settings and I would encourage you to ignore the BS and ask for more details to see that the posters are really just spreading baseless rumors. You'll have a better running, faster car for more than a grand less than other companies just for checking into it.
ZZP does not turn down the knock sensors in our PCMs. That post is bullshit as most are and I'm not even sure why so many people are spreading false information here. I'm reading about my company as if we're someone else. Damn near has me wondering who ZZP is reading about all these posts.
The twin charged kit does not need 'retuning', it doesn' have reliability issues, tuning issues or anything else. Just get it installed and enjoy it. There are only 2 adjustments which never need to be changed. They are both boost control.
Our test car outdyno'd the hahn kit and people said we we're lying and it was just that one car. We did a customer's car and hit 400WHP easily. Then people just started lying about something else. This message forum is rediculous. ZZPerformance has the world's fastest 3800 and we're working on many parts for the Cobalt. Turbo kits included. We built a 9 second FWD twin charged Grand Prix in one month.
We have 3 different kits in the works and if you want to come get one installed, we'll make a believer out of you. It will make more power, run better and cost less than what other companies are offering. The car will be tuned (no need to retune). You'll have a before and after dyno chart as well as a warranty guaranteeing you a flawless setup. You can ignore the posts in this thread as they are not true or simply ask for more information. We can give you the settings on our PCM to prove we don't change knock settings and I would encourage you to ignore the BS and ask for more details to see that the posters are really just spreading baseless rumors. You'll have a better running, faster car for more than a grand less than other companies just for checking into it.
damn, you beat me to it. i was going to say something along those lines. too many newbs on this site now adays who just repeat **** and dont know anything. pretty sad
:idiot:
Ever heard of Borg Warner??
One in the same, also they are vary local to zzp.
Bw's ET wheels are amazeing
to the OP, go with Hahn, most there stuff is close to being dead on, much more then what can be said for zzp.
Not only a hack shop, but the tune is about 4% complete. I had to spend hours cleaning up a twin car with there set up, it only took about 1-1.5 he to get the Hahn tune to be acceptable.
U can drive the car on the Hahn tune with little issue, just way down on power vs a real tune, the zzp stuff is undriveable in my eyes.
Check out jannetty(sp?) racing's kit, VARY well put togather set up.
In any case, I def get the tune tweaked by an exsperianced tuner once u get a set up like these. Tricy at times to work with and the needs more upkeep.
Ever heard of Borg Warner??
One in the same, also they are vary local to zzp.
Bw's ET wheels are amazeing
to the OP, go with Hahn, most there stuff is close to being dead on, much more then what can be said for zzp.
Not only a hack shop, but the tune is about 4% complete. I had to spend hours cleaning up a twin car with there set up, it only took about 1-1.5 he to get the Hahn tune to be acceptable.
U can drive the car on the Hahn tune with little issue, just way down on power vs a real tune, the zzp stuff is undriveable in my eyes.
Check out jannetty(sp?) racing's kit, VARY well put togather set up.
In any case, I def get the tune tweaked by an exsperianced tuner once u get a set up like these. Tricy at times to work with and the needs more upkeep.
The twin charged kit build is a one day deal. You can hang out at ZZP and watch our 42" plasma, play pool, airhockey or darts in our lounge.
The car will be dyno'd before install, the twin charge kit installed and then tuned on the dyno within 6 hours. Then we'll give you a tutorial on adjusting boost along with tips for taking the car to the track.
The car will be dyno'd before install, the twin charge kit installed and then tuned on the dyno within 6 hours. Then we'll give you a tutorial on adjusting boost along with tips for taking the car to the track.
we do have an icecream machine but we don't run it in the winter. On Fridays we usually have a company/customer grill out
We just closed a black Friday deal where you could buy the twin charged kit and get $1000 in ZZP cash. No one took advantage and I think you guys missed out big time.
We just closed a black Friday deal where you could buy the twin charged kit and get $1000 in ZZP cash. No one took advantage and I think you guys missed out big time.
Last edited by Zooomer; Nov 28, 2008 at 03:48 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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wow....did not see or hear that advertised very well. If NO ONE ordered it maybe you could post a thread if you did not already and maybe you could extend it through the long weekend? I'm personally not in the market for twin charging but maybe some people just missed it. You would only stand to gain from this. Maybe you could cut the ZZP cash in half but run it til Xmas or through first of the year? Sounds like a great deal to me. We love vendors and you've done this site well from what I've seen and read. Food for thought guys.
wow....did not see or hear that advertised very well. If NO ONE ordered it maybe you could post a thread if you did not already and maybe you could extend it through the long weekend? I'm personally not in the market for twin charging but maybe some people just missed it. You would only stand to gain from this. Maybe you could cut the ZZP cash in half but run it til Xmas or through first of the year? Sounds like a great deal to me. We love vendors and you've done this site well from what I've seen and read. Food for thought guys.
But yes, we did advertise our Black Friday sale over a week ago and it's today only. We still have lots of stuff for rediculous prices. See our front page for more info.
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From: Houston, Texas
I have been doing nothing for the past week at work but reading posts about the twin charged kit by ZZP which I am dying to have installed once I can get off this island!
It is crazy how many times the twin charged kit conversation comes up in threads and it always starts off the same way so i really want to hand some credit to Zooomer because ppl will be bashing and bashing about this kit and Zooomer comes in a just completely shoots all the bashers down and then all of a sudden once people read what the actual MANUFACTURER says instead of rumors they start complimenting ZZP on how well the kit is doing and then they are like, ooooh wow, ya, i didnt know it wasnt that bad.
It is crazy how many times the twin charged kit conversation comes up in threads and it always starts off the same way so i really want to hand some credit to Zooomer because ppl will be bashing and bashing about this kit and Zooomer comes in a just completely shoots all the bashers down and then all of a sudden once people read what the actual MANUFACTURER says instead of rumors they start complimenting ZZP on how well the kit is doing and then they are like, ooooh wow, ya, i didnt know it wasnt that bad.
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I have been doing nothing for the past week at work but reading posts about the twin charged kit by ZZP which I am dying to have installed once I can get off this island!
It is crazy how many times the twin charged kit conversation comes up in threads and it always starts off the same way so i really want to hand some credit to Zooomer because ppl will be bashing and bashing about this kit and Zooomer comes in a just completely shoots all the bashers down and then all of a sudden once people read what the actual MANUFACTURER says instead of rumors they start complimenting ZZP on how well the kit is doing and then they are like, ooooh wow, ya, i didnt know it wasnt that bad.
It is crazy how many times the twin charged kit conversation comes up in threads and it always starts off the same way so i really want to hand some credit to Zooomer because ppl will be bashing and bashing about this kit and Zooomer comes in a just completely shoots all the bashers down and then all of a sudden once people read what the actual MANUFACTURER says instead of rumors they start complimenting ZZP on how well the kit is doing and then they are like, ooooh wow, ya, i didnt know it wasnt that bad.
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Joined: 06-03-08
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From: Grand Rapids, MI
the twin charge kit pulls like a **** but
a friend of mine has it which seemed fin at first but after hooking up hp tuners there's all kinds of problems.... zzp turned down the knock sensitivity to make it look like there was none but when turned back up to stock there was over 10 degrees
a friend of mine has it which seemed fin at first but after hooking up hp tuners there's all kinds of problems.... zzp turned down the knock sensitivity to make it look like there was none but when turned back up to stock there was over 10 degrees
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:idiot:
Ever heard of Borg Warner??
One in the same, also they are vary local to zzp.
Bw's ET wheels are amazeing
to the OP, go with Hahn, most there stuff is close to being dead on, much more then what can be said for zzp.
Not only a hack shop, but the tune is about 4% complete. I had to spend hours cleaning up a twin car with there set up, it only took about 1-1.5 he to get the Hahn tune to be acceptable.
U can drive the car on the Hahn tune with little issue, just way down on power vs a real tune, the zzp stuff is undriveable in my eyes.
Check out jannetty(sp?) racing's kit, VARY well put togather set up.
In any case, I def get the tune tweaked by an exsperianced tuner once u get a set up like these. Tricy at times to work with and the needs more upkeep.
Ever heard of Borg Warner??
One in the same, also they are vary local to zzp.
Bw's ET wheels are amazeing
to the OP, go with Hahn, most there stuff is close to being dead on, much more then what can be said for zzp.
Not only a hack shop, but the tune is about 4% complete. I had to spend hours cleaning up a twin car with there set up, it only took about 1-1.5 he to get the Hahn tune to be acceptable.
U can drive the car on the Hahn tune with little issue, just way down on power vs a real tune, the zzp stuff is undriveable in my eyes.
Check out jannetty(sp?) racing's kit, VARY well put togather set up.
In any case, I def get the tune tweaked by an exsperianced tuner once u get a set up like these. Tricy at times to work with and the needs more upkeep.
I know I'd already have the ZZP twincharge set up if I lived closer. I definitely give mad props to these guys for sticking with the LSJ community and continuing to produce products, even after all the **** that people on here give them. I'm surprised they haven't packed up and left CSS.NET yet.
Zooomer and ZZP, you're doing a great job
Keep up the good work.
To the OP, if you're able to get the twincharge kit, then do it. I mean really. How awesome would it be if you could pull up in a group of cars in some random parking lot and say that you are turbocharged AND supercharged? Do you think there is any other kit out there that gives you the option of running anywhere from 300 horsepower instantly to in excess of 400 horses, if not WAY more, at the click of a mouse? Go with ZZP. They've proven themselves. Yes, Hahn is pretty reputable also, but ZZP out done them too.
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Zooomer and ZZP, you're doing a great job
Keep up the good work.To the OP, if you're able to get the twincharge kit, then do it. I mean really. How awesome would it be if you could pull up in a group of cars in some random parking lot and say that you are turbocharged AND supercharged? Do you think there is any other kit out there that gives you the option of running anywhere from 300 horsepower instantly to in excess of 400 horses, if not WAY more, at the click of a mouse? Go with ZZP. They've proven themselves. Yes, Hahn is pretty reputable also, but ZZP out done them too.
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