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JaY DuB · 2009-01-01 01:20:36

Gotcha...Those poor guys with SAI...:lol: ass.:)

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Jan 1, 2009 | 06:50 PM

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Gotcha...Those poor guys with SAI...

ass.

Jan 1, 2009 | 07:00 PM

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ass.

You spelled it wrong...it's SAI...

Jan 1, 2009 | 07:22 PM

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Oil, two fat c*cks, mmmmm

Jan 1, 2009 | 07:35 PM

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#$%& 5594778 #&^$59 55

Saying stuff like that can get you banned...

Jan 1, 2009 | 07:58 PM

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are we done here? Youre making it seem like I have a sense of humor and patience.

Jan 1, 2009 | 09:40 PM

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are we done here? Youre making it seem like I have a sense of humor and patience.

How about telling the guy how to disable the SAI/AIR/SAIRIS in his car? What scan tool does GM use to do that?

Jan 1, 2009 | 09:45 PM

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D4u2s0t said i need the tech 2 to flash off the AIR/SAI.lol.. but any other ways wouldnt hurt if you know them

Jan 1, 2009 | 10:13 PM

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D4u2s0t said i need the tech 2 to flash off the AIR/SAI.lol.. but any other ways wouldnt hurt if you know them

i'm not sure that there's any other way to do it... maybe hp tuners can if it will work on your year/model, not sure.

Jan 1, 2009 | 11:34 PM

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speakin of flashing it off.. when i get to that point im assuming i plug it up and then how do i use the tech 2? any info will help

Jan 1, 2009 | 11:59 PM

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speakin of flashing it off.. when i get to that point im assuming i plug it up and then how do i use the tech 2? any info will help

you won't use the tech 2... the dealer will...

Jan 2, 2009 | 07:33 AM

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speakin of flashing it off.. when i get to that point im assuming i plug it up and then how do i use the tech 2? any info will help

do you have a tech2, candi module and a global connect account?

Jan 2, 2009 | 12:51 PM

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haha.. no no and no...D4u2s0t said just find someone on here with one and meet up with them.. this sounds like alot of for only a couple hps ?

Jan 2, 2009 | 12:59 PM

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haha.. no no and no...D4u2s0t said just find someone on here with one and meet up with them.. this sounds like alot of for only a couple hps ?

A Tech2 isnt enough. You need the CanDi module and global connect account to, the car needs to be connected to GM. I can do it at the shop. Its not for hp, its to turn off the AIR system.

A tune can turn it off too, then you get some power and better fueling, no PE delay, etc....

Jan 2, 2009 | 02:25 PM

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so when i save up enough money i guess ill go for a tune then

Jan 2, 2009 | 02:33 PM

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so when i save up enough money i guess ill go for a tune then

well that's assuming that your year/model is supported by a tune. I haven't kept up enough with the 2.2 tuning to know off the top of my head.

Jan 2, 2009 | 02:46 PM

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I believe all Cobalt 2.2s and 2.4s are supported by Trifecta.

Jan 2, 2009 | 03:06 PM

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well there ya go then, problem solved!

Jan 6, 2009 | 11:49 PM

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There are five states that have the requirements...California as usual led the charge, New York is another, and I can't remember the other three without looking them up.

It is possible the 09 2.2 doesn't have SAI due to the VVT...anybody with an 09 2.2 have SAI?

NJ is also a state that adopted the CARB laws.

Jan 7, 2009 | 01:28 AM

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FOR THE LOVE OF CHARLES KETTERING, can we please stop talking about SAI anywhere but the suspension threads!?!?!?!?!?

SAI IS not an emissions system.

SAI is not the same as AIR.

SAI is not an abbreviation or acronym for anything used on a Cobalt.

The Secondary Air Injection Reaction system on the Balt is called AIR, just like it has been for years.

SAI is steering Axis Inclination and its not adjustable on the Cobalt, so not really any reason to see it mentioned in anything other than a custom suspension thread.

Running without the system active, with or without a tune for it, wont affect drivability or engine longevity in any discernably way. AIR is strictly a cold start emissions abatement measure. Injecting fresh air into the hot exhaust helps to get any unburned fuel droplets to react and burn, heating up the catalyst as quick as possible so there is a minimum of untreated exhaust. This is the easy/cheap way to avoid having catalyst heaters(something come down the pike as we speak)

I will say this Maven. the SAI/AIR MIL light that becomes activated once you remove the system but dont tune it refers to it as SAI

to d4u2s0t: EGR and SAI are both emissions control devices, but they work on completely different principals. I wouldnt exactly say they're the same thing.

You really can't take the car to the dealer to remove the SAI code, simply because the code is attached to the VIN (or something along those lines that adam/NJHK told me) and it would be illegal to do so. Basically, unless you know the tech personally, he probably wont risk his job to hook you up just out of the kindness of his heart. That being said, Trifecta CAN tune out this CEL, but their tunes cost $250. If you spend the money on the tune, you might as well get your whole system tuned. Personally, i just drove around with the CEL for 6 months until i got my car tuned. Didnt bother me, and it doesnt affect any performance or lifespan of the car.