halfcent is right about the acc. belt. i had no way of getting the tensioner pully off for the acc. belt so i put something long into the #1 cylinder and rotated the engine till it was at its highest point and then moved the chain till the colored links were at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock and then put the cams gears marks at those positions and put it back together. if i jacked up the valves it will just force me to buy the ferra valves at TTR. hard lesson learned if it doesnt work right after it gets re timed

 

so whatever happened here? bent valves?

when I saw that vid it reminded me of the same thing I did to my Contour when attempting to change the head...

yeah never saw that car run again...lol

haven't touched a head since either...

 

Yea did you ever get your cars timing correctly and if you did post a vid so we can hear it

 

Relevant to my interests as well, please update us mang

 

me to, me to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

 

eh, judging by the way the car sounded on the video....he probably bent more then a couple valves.....hopefully he didn't run in more and do any further damage, but good luck with all that

 

wow that sounds cool. i might get cams just for the sound now lol. but nitrous is still calling me

 

yea i just listened to it, sounds bad. i hope it works out for him.

 

its been like 13 days since he posted the video. what ever happened

 

he might of done some really bad damaged. probably wont come around for a while if he did. just my guess

 

im out to sea right now. my girl has keept me posted on this and they just got to my car on monday the 26th. i get home on march 9th so there wont be any video update till at the earliest of march 9th. so far they pulled the engine code and the code just says mulitple cylinder misfires. She said that the teacher said that code will come from ither A: engine out of timing or B: the coil pack is bad. Well since the coil pack worked before i took the engine apart then that means the timing is bad. The were supose to have reset the timing yesterday and then finish puting it back together today, such as bolting up the plastic parts, puting the valve cover back on and the timing cover ect. ect. From what im told they have only tore it apart yesterday and lined up all the markings and then tightend up the timing chain. Tonight ill find out of there is anything else wrong with it. She also said that even if it does run after they set the timing they are going to do a compression check for me and that will tell them if i bent the valves. I already have an extra head sitting at my apartment and i ripped it apart before and took the valves out of it before i left for sea just incase the valves were bent. I have my girl taking the extra head to a machine shop near my apartment to port and polish it for me. I'll let you guys know more when i find out.

THIS JUST IN

i got an email right after i posted this above. but they got the timing set and it fired up but the teacher said it sounded like it was only firing on 3 cylinders so they did a compression check.

No.1 cylinder has no compression
No.2 cylinder has reduced compression
No.3 cylinder has normal compression
No.4 cylinder has reduced compression

So there you go. It seams i really jacked up No.1 cylinder. my girl is taking the valves into them tomorrow and they will put the new valves in next week. I hope the work will be done by the time i pull back into port on the 9th of march

I just got another update, they can do the work but she says its going to take a month for me to get the car back.

 

You can't just replace the valves. The valves bent by impacting the top of the pistons. So your pistons are shot too. As I said, your engine is toast. The whole thing. You might as well do a build now, because you are going to have to pull the engine out anyway.

 

well then im just stuck till i come back from deployment. i wont have money for that till then because i get to re-enlist while on deployment and my bonus is 45k.

 

but whats the point of doing a build if he cant tune it ? yet

 

Well ive been looking at the cost of repair vs buying a new engine so this is what im going to do. its from jbodypeformance.com I asked them if they can use the Comp Cams Stage 1 cams that i have w/ the build so ill let you guys know what they say about that when they get back to me.

hey will call krystle and tell her check her email. lol

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You don't need a tune to have a built engine. You can do rods, pistons, head gasket and studs, lots of head work like valves, P&P, whatever, and none of that effects your stock ECM program. Cams would, that's the only part.

I have a fully build powertrain using reduced compression pistons on a stock ECM and have no issues at all.

 

really ? i thought once u started changing out internals you couldnt use stock settings?

 

The ECM (with regard to the engine only) controls fuel and ignition. It has nothing to do the rotating assembly or other mechanical parts. Cams are part of the fuel system indirectly. Otherwise, you can do anything you want.

When you change out parts of the ignition or fuel system, then you need to be able to tune. The most common problem is people changing injectors without a tune. That is like the ultimate no-no. The injectors are DIRECTLY controlled by the ECM. You can't just go changing them without changing the ECM as well.

 

i got my email back from jbp and they said that i can use the stage 1 comp cams in their build.

but krystle wants to see if the teacher at votech can get the 3 pistons and the valves for cheaper then buying a new engine. im trying to tell her that the jbp engine has everything in it that i want done except for the ferra springs and valves

 

ohh o.k

 

man is there anyone on this site who has done a successful cam swap? lol

you guys are scaring me into paying for a head swap.

 

none can with out tunning.


unles you do a piggy back ecm

 

if i would have followed instructions to the T with every i doted and t crossed it would have worked. you dont need a tune for the Comp Cams Stage 1. a tune is recomended to get the max potential out of the cams but its not needed. There is a guy on the ss.com site done it sucsesfully and that is what inspiared me. but i didnt do things the right way and paid dearly for it. but hey im ither A: buying ferra valves and wiesco pistons in the next few days or B: buying the JBP engine and sending them my cams for the build. I just have to wait to see what my girl is ok with.