Cobalt ss beating a LS (turbo'd) unlikely? Finally proven
10-03-2005, 08:05 PM
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Cobalt ss beating a LS (turbo'd) unlikely? Finally proven
I just recently finished a stage one turbo setup (@ 8psi) on my cobalt LS 2.2 ltr. My friend owns a cobalt ss supercharged. So we raced them both 5 times and each time the race went down the same way. The ss supercharge pulled out at the start but my LS turbocharge blew by it at the end. The race was a little over a 1/4 mile long. We also switched and I raced with his ss supercharged and he beat me in my LS turbocharged. So I guess the only time the SS would be faster is in a 50 foot race 
Can't wait to upgrade to the next stage! 
Can't wait to upgrade to the next stage!
10-03-2005, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltBurst
told ya 
, nice work, once i sell my cavy ill be right there with ya 
what kind of turbo/kit did you get? where?
, nice work, once i sell my cavy ill be right there with ya what kind of turbo/kit did you get? where?
And also how much did everything cost including installation
10-03-2005, 09:11 PM
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Just a couple of questions for you. Where did you get your turbo kit from and have you got any pics of it...just curious . As well...I hope you're not planning on pushing more than 8psi the next stage without considering rebuilding your internals or you may be terribly surprised when you start tossing rods left right and center.
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. As well...I hope you're not planning on pushing more than 8psi the next stage without considering rebuilding your internals or you may be terribly surprised when you start tossing rods left right and center.Permafried-
10-03-2005, 09:18 PM
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Just a couple of questions for you. Where did you get your turbo kit from and have you got any pics of it...just curious . As well...I hope you're not planning on pushing more than 8psi the next stage without considering rebuilding your internals or you may be terribly surprised when you start tossing rods left right and center.
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. As well...I hope you're not planning on pushing more than 8psi the next stage without considering rebuilding your internals or you may be terribly surprised when you start tossing rods left right and center.Permafried-
10-03-2005, 09:26 PM
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I don't know what to say
Well I don't intend on upgrading my car anymore because too much more power and I will have to waste lots of money and completely rebuild my engine. The thing is that you can buy a regular base 2.2 and for under $3000 you can not only run with but run away from an SS until your governer kicks in lol (have to get that taken care of). And it gets to the point where even the ss can only run soo much boast before the internals need to be upgraded. I purchased the LS because I thought the SS was a waste of money performance wise. You can only do so much with a supercharger on a 4 cyl. Keyword displacement the 2.2 has more. I would love to see someone turbo a 2.4 VVT that would be sick!
10-03-2005, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jiveturkey
The thing is that you can buy a regular base 2.2 and for under $3000 you can not only run with but run away from an SS until your governer kicks in lol (have to get that taken care of)
Under 3000 was that with everything installed?. Where in Canada di you get the kit?
10-03-2005, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jiveturkey
Well I don't intend on upgrading my car anymore because too much more power and I will have to waste lots of money and completely rebuild my engine. The thing is that you can buy a regular base 2.2 and for under $3000 you can not only run with but run away from an SS until your governer kicks in lol (have to get that taken care of). And it gets to the point where even the ss can only run soo much boast before the internals need to be upgraded. I purchased the LS because I thought the SS was a waste of money performance wise. You can only do so much with a supercharger on a 4 cyl. Keyword displacement the 2.2 has more. I would love to see someone turbo a 2.4 VVT that would be sick!
I'm happy to see the 2.2L engine being upgraded but don't get your hopes up if you line up with a SS running 15 psi, because that is the replacement for displacement.
10-03-2005, 09:43 PM
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from the sound of it the SS guys cant afford 15 psi with everyone doing the "air box" mod lol taking out the extra tubing etc. 
10-03-2005, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jiveturkey
Well I don't intend on upgrading my car anymore because too much more power and I will have to waste lots of money and completely rebuild my engine. The thing is that you can buy a regular base 2.2 and for under $3000 you can not only run with but run away from an SS until your governer kicks in lol (have to get that taken care of). And it gets to the point where even the ss can only run soo much boast before the internals need to be upgraded. I purchased the LS because I thought the SS was a waste of money performance wise. You can only do so much with a supercharger on a 4 cyl. Keyword displacement the 2.2 has more. I would love to see someone turbo a 2.4 VVT that would be sick!
And yes, An SS has its limits on boost as well, but it's a lot higher than your car which= more potential.
10-03-2005, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltBurst
i doubt well see alot of people running 15psi, on the web im sure it will seem like alot, but in your area, chances of running into a 15psi ss are slim.
10-03-2005, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltBurst
i doubt well see alot of people running 15psi, on the web im sure it will seem like alot, but in your area, chances of running into a 15psi ss are slim.
10-03-2005, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
No more of a waste of money than what you did to your car. You just killed your warranty, you had to come up with money for the kit, plus make a car payment, and on top of that an SS owner will barely touch his motor and beat you. Good kill anyway.
And yes, An SS has its limits on boost as well, but it's a lot higher than your car which= more potential.
And yes, An SS has its limits on boost as well, but it's a lot higher than your car which= more potential.
, 2.2 internals are EVERYWHERE, and cheap 
10-03-2005, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltBurst
he just spent about 19000 for a turbod cobalt and you spent hmmm 23+ for ur supercharged? and he beats you? again turbos>supercharger no matter what, not even comparing engines. Warranty? who cares, if you touch your ss you void the warranty also , 2.2 internals are EVERYWHERE, and cheap
, 2.2 internals are EVERYWHERE, and cheap This is becomming a 2.2L v. 2.0L
10-03-2005, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcS
That's pretty ignorent to say, especially after all the discussion on the board on this topic.
This is becomming a 2.2L v. 2.0L
This is becomming a 2.2L v. 2.0L
No more of a waste of money than what you did to your car. You just killed your warranty, you had to come up with money for the kit, plus make a car payment, and on top of that an SS owner will barely touch his motor and beat you. Good kill anyway.
By the way nice sig !
10-03-2005, 09:58 PM
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yea no ****, relax, 2.2 and 2.0 are both Cobalts, if u have some anger, go take it out on some imports, and come back and tell us how long it took for u to get banned lol that'd be funny
10-03-2005, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltBurst
it was in reference to this
talking about the warranty etc. dont get people started...
By the way nice sig !
talking about the warranty etc. dont get people started...
By the way nice sig !
I don't want this turning into a stupid agrument
I'd love to see what a turbo could do on the 2.0L, I love the SC sound, but you can increase boost on a turbo much more easily.