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if u did a true test and reserch on oils, ud find that the only true synthetic oil in north america is MOTUL, the information is there that jsut b/c it states its true syntethic does not mean its true synthetic, even alll u mobil 1 arm humpers, amsoil, etc.... do the reserch, go into factories if u have to.
i looked into this while i fought with a local dealership about hwo motul is better than mobil 1, and therefore safer for my car, and could not void my warranty.
i would pull up all the data and links but its not worth it, if u do have the time go and look for yourself, if you look up motul i believe they have links to all the major manufacturers of oil that say they use a full synthetic oil and on the manufacturers own website states its true ingredients
also if u want the best oil, order from europe, they have oil that gurantees the life of the oil, and u could just regularly change your oil filter and top up the oil, thats how super refined there synthetic oil is
i looked into this while i fought with a local dealership about hwo motul is better than mobil 1, and therefore safer for my car, and could not void my warranty.
i would pull up all the data and links but its not worth it, if u do have the time go and look for yourself, if you look up motul i believe they have links to all the major manufacturers of oil that say they use a full synthetic oil and on the manufacturers own website states its true ingredients
also if u want the best oil, order from europe, they have oil that gurantees the life of the oil, and u could just regularly change your oil filter and top up the oil, thats how super refined there synthetic oil is
To be clear, you are stating that Motul offers a product that is NOT derived from a petroleum hydrocarbon strain??
If this truly is the case I was unaware and would love to see the info on it .
There are polyalkyleneglycol (PAG)based oils available that will work in your engine as a lubricant but they are not designed as such, they are STUPID expensive, and do NOT MIX with any oil currently available on the parts store shelves.
Polyol ester(POE) oils are to my knowledge not currently used widely as motor oil stock, Redline I believe uses them and they are good stuff, but they can be and are in mnay case still taken from a mineral oil base, tryglyceride chains and **** are involved, this one makes my head hurt. basically they take oil and break it apart to get the pieces they need to create their own molecule, it IS fully synthetic, but it IS made from dinos...Something good and bad about POEs is that they absorb water like crazy, good if you get your oil nice and hot(212+) for extended periods of time, shitty if you dont...
Poly-Alpha-Olefin or PAO oils are fully synthetic stocks and are for cars potentially the best stock, I know of only one company for sure that uses 100% PAO formulations and that is Amsoil, Mobil manufactures a whole shitload of PAO in different viscocities grades etc, and markets it under the SpectraSyn and SpectraSyn Ultra names, but I dont know who uses it(Mobil1 is "Supersyn") I believe Dexron VI uses a SpectraSyn Ultra base.
The last class of synthetic motor oil stock I know of are alkylated naphthalene products, while they can be made from the oil refining process, and was originally derived from coal, its is probably 90% fabricated these days, I dont know who uses it if anyone does, its also stupid expensive and has properties that make it more suited to industrial apps than internal combustion road engines.
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The biggest difference is that in most cars the filter is a metal cylinder with the filter on the inside, you thread it right into the oil line. On these, and if that sonata also has it its probably a new thing they're doing in small engines, the casing for the filter is attached to the block and you only change the paper part of the filter assembly. The first time i did one i thought i bought the wrong part lol.
Dude, that gets like 1.45 million hits, LOL.
Ive never heard of this happening, and if theres a particular article youre referencing or a group of particular cases involving failures when switching back to dino oil I'd be very interested in reading about that.
Ive never heard of this happening, and if theres a particular article youre referencing or a group of particular cases involving failures when switching back to dino oil I'd be very interested in reading about that.
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i know everyone says that oil is oil. ive run royal purple, mobile 1 synthetic, and amsoil in my 07. all 5w-30. MY cobalt likes the amsoil the best. not sayin it has more hp or anything. but it does seem to start and run smoother. could just be in my head, but im happy with it. and im gonna stay with it. plus its cheaper than mobile 1 synthetic. anyway, thats my two cents.
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Read that.
http://www.bestsynthetic.com/comptest.shtml
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