06_ion2

Has there been another company to support us yet or other options besides Trifecta?

ssyellowss

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Negative. The computer in that car is not used elsewhere really and didn't make a good business decision to develop support when major tuning brands had other, more common ECUs to support.

06_ion2

Any way around using a different motor harness and computer? I'm not afraid to hack into my body harness to make things work.

ssyellowss

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You would need to swap to an ECU that is supported by your choice of tuning software. The ECU in 07-10 2.2L cobalts is supported by EFILive and HPTuners. I am unsure of all of the differences between the 05-06 cobalts versus 07+ other than the 05-06 models do not have a camshaft position sensor where 07+ models do. Hopefully someone who is more knowledgable can drop in and help.

06_ion2

With a 07 computer could you possibly just plug in the camshaft sensor and tune it out?

But doesn't the 07 run the timing off of it?

CBM said: "Delphi MEFI 5 computer and one of our custom harnesses" but it's 1500 for the harness and ecm and 1000 for the cable to tune it.

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBa...=1453856487895

Slowbalt2000

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I wouldnt use one of those ebay kits unless youre sure of what ecu they use. The cavi ones are no good.

Im sure its possible to switch to 07+ electronics but youd need a different head.

06_ion2

I can't do that, have turbo cams and patriot head.

What does the cps actually do on the 07+? Could you just plug the sensor into the computer and zip tie it off somewhere and change its values to run right?

I also forgot the 07+ is coil on plug. Ughh

ssyellowss

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07+ models do use the camshaft sensor along with the crankshaft sensor for timing the rotating assembly. As mentioned, I would avoid ebay kits and the like. Your best bet might be to find a junked 07-10 2.2 to take the electronics and harness from it along with the cylinder head.

Your next issue could be the differences in transmission control. I am not sure if there is a difference; ie: a separate transmission control unit or is it controlled by the ecu/pcm.

Edit: just saw recent post. You might be able to get away with leaving the cam sensor unplugged and tune it out. Not sure.

06_ion2

It's not really an eBay kit they have a site. I just used it for reference.

Axelthered05

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I gave up on trifecta and am running an AEM fic8 on top of their tune

06_ion2

Awesome, that sounds promising. Your a 2006? Can you adjust timing? Is there any limitations doing this?
Mostly I just need to adjust fuel on top and timing, other than that it runs very well

Slowbalt2000

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Yes it will run without the cam sensor but you lose sequential fuel injection

blueLNFftw

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You need to swap in a 07+ 2.2 ECU and BCM OR go full stand alone.
ONLY options.
AEM, HKS, MegaSquirt, Haltec, etc...

06_ion2

I think I'm going to contact aem about the fic. As I already have a trifecta tune that works without any problems besides it's not giving the full potential. A local shop to me is a aem dealer so maybe they can dyno tune it also.

Axelthered05

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you can only retard the timing with the fic you cant advance it and you need an FIC8 to handle the MAF sensor since ours is frequency based i wrote a how-to on installing the fic6 in an 06 cobalt almost 6 years ago, the fic8 is a little different if you decide to go that route than this may help https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-...g-fic6-217406/ if you go for that pm me and i will give you some updated info

06_ion2

My timing is at 20* wot so your saying I can't change that?

Axelthered05

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the fic can only delay the cam sensor signal (signal from the compression sense ignition) to make the computer ignite later

blueLNFftw

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MegaSquirt can advance timing; you get complete control with it.


I tuned a turbo Tiburn on the FIC. It is easy, but limited.

Axelthered05

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yeah ive also looked into the MegaSquirt, at this point im convinced any engine computer is better than the E16A that came in our cars

06_ion2

Alright, I'll just deal with what I have already. This seems like too much work.

DSLaBuda

Joe, have you had to contact Trifecta lately? I've sent a few emails to them and Weller but never get a response. They no longer list our cars on their site so I think we got the shaft.

06_ion2

I haven't had contact with them since like 2009 I'll have it back running next week, I Just hope it Still runs.

I think they stopped when Vince left/retired.

If you need a s/c tune I think you might beable to flash somebody else's tune?

DSLaBuda

I thought about that but for some reason thought they were coded with the Vin number. I could check around I'd anyone has a L61 tune for a stock or 2.9 pulley. That is assuming the flash doesn't brick my ecu and I can flash it back to stock if it doesn't work. It's either that or f/ic8...

It was mentioned on here they stopped supporting it around new years this year. I guess that explains why repeated emails, Facebook messages, etc sent to both Vince and Steve have gone unanswered. Murphy's law it happens when I have a forged motor and supporting mods.

That seriously makes me question ever buying one of their tunes for the models they support now if they just drop you like that.

blueLNFftw

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Exactly!
Another reason why HP Tuners is better lol

DSLaBuda

So out of the blue I received a FB reply.

If we were dropped I wonder how long before the others are dropped after something else comes out?