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Old 09-15-2007, 11:56 PM
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noticeable diff. with maintenance

so i was having probs with a little high temps. so i have a realy good friend that works at the dealership and did some work for me. i got my fuel pump changed, freon for my a/c (apparently i had a leak...its fixed and i have to keep the air down because it gets so cold), warped rotors machined (wasn't to bad but did it anyway) and new pads. those are done already and what a huge diff. my gas mileage is at a steady 21.8mpg or more and my temps are not going above 192ish unless i've been idling for a while. i'm also getting my radiator flushed and back shoes replaced aswell. shoudl be nice little tune up for the car.

what is a good coolant fluid to use thats not mixed already? i'm going to try the 70/30 water/coolant mix with water wetter and see how that turns out. also does any one know where to get the rear shoes cheap? they have to ordered he said. so maybe i can get them cheaper somewhere.

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Old 09-16-2007, 12:25 AM
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Dexcool is what we go with stock. I say stick with that.

As far as shoes goes it's not too important. I'd just go with some lifetime warranty autozone stuff. Shoes don't really do alot of braking so it's pretty much just whatever you can get cheap.

also 21.8mpg sux ass man. look into that. I'd say average is around 26-31.
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Originally Posted by Novajoe
Dexcool is what we go with stock. I say stick with that.

As far as shoes goes it's not too important. I'd just go with some lifetime warranty autozone stuff. Shoes don't really do alot of braking so it's pretty much just whatever you can get cheap.

also 21.8mpg sux ass man. look into that. I'd say average is around 26-31.
no 21.8 is the minimum i've been getting now. befor it was worse. now i get like 26ish on average. what color os dexcool?
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You beat the **** outta your car...
Old 09-16-2007, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
You beat the **** outta your car...
actually no...i take real good care of it. i'm the secondowner unfortunately. only time it gets roughed up a lil is when i go to the track. event that is a rare occasion.
Old 09-16-2007, 09:36 AM
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damn, i average 10mpg more then you do with the same car
Old 09-16-2007, 10:01 AM
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And I get 3 mpg more than you, all mine is ALL city traffic. LOL
Old 09-16-2007, 10:17 AM
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yea the my LS gets bad mileage as well, im not racing the car just keeping up with the flow of traffic, shifting at about 3-4k in 1st then quickly making my way to 5th. i drive all city and barely make 21 mpg, my problem is my mpg plummets when im idleing at a light, i think the calculator is wrong. highway ill get 35+ its funny because i beat the snot out of my vette with over twice the power and get 16-18 mpg each fillup
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you know, I see alot of people saying around 31mpg or less, I get around 36mpg highway and 34mpg in town?
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Originally Posted by Sh0nuff
you know, I see alot of people saying around 31mpg or less, I get around 36mpg highway and 34mpg in town?

I get the same numbers on my 2.0.....Gotta love freeing up that air hehehe,but to the O.P......IF you want some good brakes(which is what I assume you are taking about), check out ebc(www.ebc.cm), or Hawk Brake Pads.
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im actually looking for shoes for the rear drums.
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yeah, ebc makes em i think
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dex cool is red

high priced shoes are a waste IMO. The rear shoes just don't see that much action

the mpg problem is more location related than anything. denser air is going to make your car use more fuel than average... so those closer to sea level are going to use more fuel. Going through alotta traffic will make it go way down b/c of all the idling. Whatever the case if you don't go through alot of traffic then I'd look into possible problems. Make sure you have all the latest reflashes from your dealer. There's NO traffic where I live. I might stop for 4 lights total on my 10 mile trip to and from work.
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Originally Posted by Novajoe
dex cool is red

high priced shoes are a waste IMO. The rear shoes just don't see that much action

the mpg problem is more location related than anything. denser air is going to make your car use more fuel than average... so those closer to sea level are going to use more fuel. Going through alotta traffic will make it go way down b/c of all the idling. Whatever the case if you don't go through alot of traffic then I'd look into possible problems. Make sure you have all the latest reflashes from your dealer. There's NO traffic where I live. I might stop for 4 lights total on my 10 mile trip to and from work.
i live in florida. im not looking for performance shoes. just looking to where i can get some cheap. thanks
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yea the humidity in fl is going to kill your mpg. When I moved from az to al I lost like 3 average mpg... but I'm still 29 or above... when's the last time you changed your air filter?

As far as shoes go I'd just go with some regular duralast from autozone. Probly cost you 15 bux for both sides togeather and you get a lifetime warranty.
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air filter is brand new. i take real good of the maintnance on my car. i'll look into autozone. i think they didn't have it though.
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Get a decent set of shoes, shoes are what give you the feel in your brake pedal. If you get a crappy set you will always have a crappy feeling in the pedal. Its not like Thermoquiet or Bendix shoes cost that much. There was also an issue years ago with neons where if you put the second line shoes on them they would overheat and lock up the rear wheels and spin the car. For the probably $15 extra your going to spend, get a decent set, you don't need hawk or anything, but at least brand name GM, Bendix, Wagner, or Raybestos.

And Yes I'm wearing my nomex if someone disagrees. :P
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Originally Posted by Redberet
Get a decent set of shoes, shoes are what give you the feel in your brake pedal. If you get a crappy set you will always have a crappy feeling in the pedal. Its not like Thermoquiet or Bendix shoes cost that much. There was also an issue years ago with neons where if you put the second line shoes on them they would overheat and lock up the rear wheels and spin the car. For the probably $15 extra your going to spend, get a decent set, you don't need hawk or anything, but at least brand name GM, Bendix, Wagner, or Raybestos.

And Yes I'm wearing my nomex if someone disagrees. :P
thanks man. i was looking for names. + rep. im probably going to get the bendix. raybestos is kind pricey.
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Originally Posted by Redberet
Get a decent set of shoes, shoes are what give you the feel in your brake pedal. If you get a crappy set you will always have a crappy feeling in the pedal. Its not like Thermoquiet or Bendix shoes cost that much. There was also an issue years ago with neons where if you put the second line shoes on them they would overheat and lock up the rear wheels and spin the car. For the probably $15 extra your going to spend, get a decent set, you don't need hawk or anything, but at least brand name GM, Bendix, Wagner, or Raybestos.

And Yes I'm wearing my nomex if someone disagrees. :P
actually I'd chalk up crappy pedal to people not adjusting the brakes properly... not to the name brand of the shoes. If you really have to have the best just find the cheapes ceramic shoes you can find. Really there's not much difference in the way brakes are made... just which materials they use. Semi-metallic, organic, or ceramic. Ceramic's the best.
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ok im up to 26mpg average in the city and about 31-32 on highway. and the highway in south florida sucks. lol.
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Originally Posted by lil_kano
ok im up to 26mpg average in the city and about 31-32 on highway. and the highway in south florida sucks. lol.
it did here too before they paved it. Before I moved to phoenix for school I-20 was so rippley(is that a word?) that you wouldn't be able to tell driving with a flat tire from regular driving.
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I hope everyone that says they are getting 21 or so or close to 40 is checking it and not going by the computer. They are not always acurate. There has been times where it was within a .2 of a mile per gallon and sometimes where it is off by 7mpg.
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Originally Posted by Helltime
I hope everyone that says they are getting 21 or so or close to 40 is checking it and not going by the computer. They are not always acurate. There has been times where it was within a .2 of a mile per gallon and sometimes where it is off by 7mpg.
i'm going by what my dash hawk is telling me.
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Yeah I live in Las Vegas, I pulled off that crazy POS thats in the fenderwell so it sucks straight into the airbox, and it was getting 25city and 31 or 32 on on the freeway with the K&N. Now I ran some tubing from the airbox down into the fenderwell and attached my spectre air filter in it, I get usually 27 in the city and 36+ on the freeway. I just reset my computer till it finds a steady measurement for the MPG. If you really want to save gas you can run it between 1.5K and 2K or 2K and 2.5K, you might look like an old granny, but it'll be cheaper on the wallet.

Edit:By the way, I am building my Spectre intake using the segments, I'll let u guys know how it turns out.
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the computer is very innacurate, i shift at 2-2.5k wih 1/3 throttle and am in5th by 30, i have alot of stop and go (20 minutes to cover 4 miles) but 20mpg is ridiculous
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