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Possible build? 90 psi 2.2 ecotec?

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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 05:55 PM
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Car throttle has an issue top 10 super sleepers. That's were I seen the vw. YouTube or Google it it should still be around. And yes I've seen that badass fmsr head... But I'm worried why are they the only ones that can make a head that pushes 60 psi + ....

Now someone please tell me I got my number wrong but if my blower is going at 20psi and my turbos kicken in 30 I don't actually get 78psi do I?
And yes your number is wrong.

Boost pressure is outlet minus inlet. If you have a single charger, then it's output minus atmospheric. You don't get to count atmospheric twice. It'd be 64.5psi.

HOWEVER, that's assuming you get to maintain the same efficiency. You lose so much efficiency doing something like that, that as others have already said it's not worth it.
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 06:01 PM
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LOL daily drive a 2k hp fwd car.

Dude can I buy some pot from you?
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 06:07 PM
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Possible build? 90 psi 2.2 ecotec?

Pot Lol idk.... And no realistically 500 hp - 800 hp torque somewheres near the same range... I didn't say I wasn't getting alot custom work done to it...

And so my psi calculations are close. Then ?
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 06:11 PM
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Possible build? 90 psi 2.2 ecotec?

The only thing I stated was I seen an mk2 gold with 2000 hp which is ridiculous. I want something that would keep up or smoke a corvette. Any ideas fire away.

Why will I not run nos... Even with safeties there's a greater chance at hitting it at the wrong time. 6 grand out the drain.

Why will I twincharge it... Turbo lag I had a car before with a t2 t3 turbo I put a turbo out of a ford diesel one ton... And turbo freagin lag man... Big time turbo lag. But once hit 4700 rpms, you hit 6200 rpms in a split second.
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Lmfao. Go get a diesel kid if you wanna run 90psi boost.
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 06:16 PM
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You think a 2000hp ecotec will only cost you 6 grand? More like 60 grand
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 06:21 PM
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Possible build? 90 psi 2.2 ecotec?

Alright since you guys ain't helping me get anywheres.... I'm gonna stick this to local build. And when I'm finished I'll take some pics and vids. But I won't go into the detail of work I've done ;-). You fellers have a good one
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Alright, im sure theres a few 600hp guys on here that actually know what theyre talking about and wouldnt mind blowing your doors off once or twice.
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 06:27 PM
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Possible build? 90 psi 2.2 ecotec?

Good luck. Your gonna need alot of it. And a **** ton of money.
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Originally Posted by Justin12345
The only thing I stated was I seen an mk2 gold with 2000 hp which is ridiculous. I want something that would keep up or smoke a corvette. Any ideas fire away.

Why will I not run nos... Even with safeties there's a greater chance at hitting it at the wrong time. 6 grand out the drain.

Why will I twincharge it... Turbo lag I had a car before with a t2 t3 turbo I put a turbo out of a ford diesel one ton... And turbo freagin lag man... Big time turbo lag. But once hit 4700 rpms, you hit 6200 rpms in a split second.
Old outdated turbo tech. Read into EFR series turbos, and there is one you can actually bolt up to a 2.2. You also realize a diesel turbo housing is not correct for a gas driven car right? You need to seriously research turbo builds or purchase a pre-built kit.

ZFR (ERF modified housing) LNF cobalt was reeling in a Mclareen MP4-12C from 100ish to 160ish. A stock e85 LNF will beat down C6 corvettes at the track with a good driver behind the cobalt, learn to race first then build power, power won't win you races.
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It's not that no one wanrmts to help you or give you advice but when you start talking about 90 psi + an ecotec **** was bound to go down hill. Personally for your goals I would run a single turbo s259 and it'll get you to that range. Talk with the other turbo guys who run it and they'll give you an idea of the lag.

A twin charged build would be epic but I can only think the supercharger would be more of a restriction once the turbo takes over at x rpm unless you had a way to bypass it after a certain rpm. All well above my knowledge
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 07:03 PM
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Possible build? 90 psi 2.2 ecotec?

I think you (op) need to read the ecotec build book so you can get an idea of what your asking.
Also take a look at rollermandans build thread and associated threads to see what kind of car it takes to handle the type of power you are referring to.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l...6/index13.html

Btw zzp "only" needed 55psi to make 898whp which i believe is rhe highest recorded whp on a production ecotec block

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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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sorry but when I read the title I thought he wanted to beat this cobalt
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 07:57 PM
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From what i heard rollerman dan was selling his car because nobody would help him out with it
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Originally Posted by Haven07
It's not that no one wanrmts to help you or give you advice but when you start talking about 90 psi + an ecotec **** was bound to go down hill. Personally for your goals I would run a single turbo s259 and it'll get you to that range. Talk with the other turbo guys who run it and they'll give you an idea of the lag.

A twin charged build would be epic but I can only think the supercharger would be more of a restriction once the turbo takes over at x rpm unless you had a way to bypass it after a certain rpm. All well above my knowledge
Not true. Alan mcclure helped someone build a twincharged ion in a compound setup so that the bypass never opens in boost. The way he explains it is the blower is just an air pump that will always flow more air than the engine, basically just multiplies the boost from the turbo by 1.3. Not much of the build has been posted here on css unfortunatly but he made 390 running out of fuel.
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From what i heard rollerman dan was selling his car because nobody would help him out with it
Is this a joke? Lol
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 08:05 PM
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From what I'm aware of no
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 08:06 PM
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I just checked his instagram and it seems like he still is trying but it was for sale at one point recently
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 08:24 PM
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What does he need help with? Its shop built
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Welp. Time to scrap my build and start over with supertech ported valves and 8:1 pistons
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Ported valves huh?
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Originally Posted by Justin12345
So I'm curious to all the l61 owners I'm thinking about starting a build is there anyway to build an engine with 90 pounds of boost. My guess probably not. If I did build this what parts should I be looking for to handle 90 psi of boost. Plan:

Engine bored 30 over bore.
Eagle rods and bearings
Wiseco pistons 8:1 compression (drop in compression)
Billet crankshaft 4340
Supertech ported valves
82lb springs and retainers
Valve seals (no idea yet)
Competition camshafts (strip cams or racing cams) not fully decided.

Now would I need to have a Darton sleeves installed. What should I be looking for to push 90psi. (Actual psi 80) but 10 just in case anything goes bad. Will I have to nitro it, or could I use high octane gas. 97+?

Any info would be great considering I'm starting this ridiculous build soon.
See above.

You think the tvs will make 90psi?
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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Yeah if you put it on a lawnmower.
Old Aug 18, 2015 | 09:22 PM
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Also .030 would be a wreck on these motors lol.

Overheating and cracked sleeves for days
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Originally Posted by 07blackg5
See above.

You think the tvs will make 90psi?
That part that doesnt make sense to me is if you're (not you the OP) going for 90psi why in the world would you bore the sleeves out 30? Oh joy lets take more material out that will help with the pressure it can hold



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