Yea, like i said, I just talked to Donna. She said if someone with a 2.2 went out there, she thinks they could prob fabricate something up for us. It's just that it is all 2.0 SS/SC's that they are always dealing with. It sounds like a definite option.

 

i would possibly be interested in going out there if it meant i could get a header! i'll pm her right now.

 

If you look at the picture in the SAI sticky thread, you will see that the issue is in the exhaust manifold flange. The passageways for the airflow is cut into the backside of the mounting flange. So it's not just the simple addition of an extra pipe.

Also, that same picture will show you the quality of the stock SAI manifold part. It's not something you want to try and hone out. It's really a sucky part.

 

i pm'd donna, let's see what kind of response i get.

i think it would be more along the lines of getting an aftermarket header and trying to make the provisions for the sai, vs. honing out a stock manifold that already has the provision. with the pics of the manifold you posted, it looks like i can just fold it in half like a piece of tin foil.

 

Sweet, sounds like we are spearheading a revolution Dust. Let me know what she says. I gave her your name as well. We could make a ton of 2.2's happy out there.

 

i hope i get a good response. the shop is about an hour away, i stopped by to pick up my downpipe a while back. i can kill 2 birds with one stone, i think i got one of the non-stainless downpipes from their bad batch, so i was kinda planning on going back one day anyways. this is extra incentive!

 

I'm really interested in this. I also have the air pump. I was able to set up an Injen CAI using a breather for the other tube leading to the pump, but I still get a CEL every once in while. Don't really care, but I'd really like to be able to get a header when I get the funds. I'll definately be watching this thread.

 

If you REALLY want to make this work, what you do is take a stock SAI manifold, cut off the flange, and then weld new, quality runners to that.

 

yea... i'm waiting to hear back from donna.. she's on now but hasn't replied yet... we'll see what they come up with.

 

sorry i havent been able to get the my PM box. like i told a few guys without having the car physically in our presence its going to be pretty hard to fab anything up. but we do make a lot of one off custom pieces. an appt. must be set up when ken gets a chance to look at it and we can work from there.
i cant guarantee anything for sure, but we are willing to try and help you guys out being that we know parts are limited for that model.

 

i'd be more than willing to come down for a few weekends or something to help out.

 

So have any of you SAI guys thought about drilling and tapping the GMPP Intake to fit the SAI hookup?

I like the design since it will seal against the hood and could eventually be functional...

Any thoughts?

 

I don't understand that, care to explain it a little to me ?

 

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/secondary-air-injection-late-production-2006-l61s-38488/ to read about SAI

Only the K&N Intake is compatible

 

How will sealing the SAI to a functional hood be good bad or different?? I thought it was strictly for emissions?

 

One has nothing to do with the other, and he wasn't suggesting that it did. He was just saying he would like to use the possible functional ram air of the GMPP intake like others have done and still be able to supply the SAI.

 

If you get anything other than the k&n you have to go to your local autozone or pepboys or whatever and get an air breather liiek one you would put on the v8

 

That's my point. I thought about tapping the GMPP pipe to allow for the SAI connection. K&N has a nice metal sleeve that you insert into the intake if you need to utilize the SAI connection.. It seems logical to me that the same could be done with the GMPP Intake with similar results. But now having a better seal for fresh air only and future possibilty for functional ram.



I think that little tap in there for SAI could be recreated on the GMPP. A small fitting and a hose and I think it should work just fine... Any thoughts?

 

Sorry to resurrect this thread, but what would be the problem in just using the GMPP header and some intake without the SAI hookup? Wouldn't you just bypass the SAI system entirely? Or would that screw with the o2 sensors/make it carb-illegal? Would GM even install the header if I have an aftermarket intake with a breather sitting on the header?

 

anyone ever go over to cobalt addiction n get their header looked at. this SAI is bs to me

 

when i had the 2.2 i offered, they said they would do it and never got back in touch with me. then i started hearing tons of bad things about them so i never called them back. my experiences with them were ok though.

 

o alright

 

To answer my own question, I'm guessing GM would NOT do the work, and I'd have to reflash the PCM to avoid CELs/do it "right." Now, voided warranty aside, will this be carb-legal? And am I correct in assuming GM would neither install the header nor reflash the pcm?

 

they will not reflash the PCM unless you have a hookup, as your PCM VIN# will not match your car's VIN#
also, having a CEL is an instant fail on an emissions test, so yes, you'd fail

 

Lets say I have a SAI-equipped model, and I swap in an intake and header with no SAI hookups, and reflash the PCM to get rid of CEL, will that then be emissions-legal? Or is there something going on with SAI-equipped models that's just not that simple?