2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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[QUOTE=Maven;4519764]The issue would be making the stock throttle operate a cable linkage, and of course whatever tuning it would need. I dont know of ANYONE ANYWHERE who has put ITBs on with the stock ECM



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Okay, you keep your ass dyno and Ill take the ITBs
hahah umm is there any 2.2 runnin this set up yet?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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Theres lots of ECOs with ITBs, just not Cobalts because nobody has ever done a serious NA build on one afaik.

Ive been considering it lately since I love them and I am tired of hearing everybody bitch about what can and cant be done,

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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anyone got a link to a pre made set up that could "possibly" be altered to fit our cars?

tried searching...it seems no one knows the gains that the 2.4 Tb will give a 2.2? *sigh* how is this possible? picked up my SS exhaust today! its in good condition, gunna sand her down and rustoleum that ****....should i gut the cat? or keep it for back pressure as im only a 2.2

and any ideas on the gains from it?

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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Okay, you keep your ass dyno and Ill take the ITBs
Hey buddy, dont you get smart with me.

My friend Ronnie put ITB's on his 440hp RB26 and only gained 15 WHP. Hence why I dont see the point. Although if it matters he used Hiyabusa TB's off a 1300. I didnt see them as being restrictive but I never took the time to research if they were port matched. That is my only experience with them so if his was just a flawed experience then I will change my opinion.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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i would love 15 more hp




i may have to look into this maven, if you get anywhere with what your looking into let me know, ive been very intereseted in this for a while :P
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Kinsler makes a setup for the ECO, its over $2000. Also if youre talented enough to get a cable drive ITB setup to work on a CObalt then getting a Honda K20 ITB setup to fit should be no problem either, there are several ITB setups for the K20 available, it requires some fab work to make it fit, but its actually pretty damn close.

There are at least two other setups out there that I know of. S E A R C H

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Kinsler makes a setup for the ECO, its over $2000. Also if youre talented enough to get a cable drive ITB setup to work on a CObalt then getting a Honda K20 ITB setup to fit should be no problem either, there are several ITB setups for the K20 available, it requires some fab work to make it fit, but its actually pretty damn close.

There are at least two other setups out there that I know of. S E A R C H
ive learned that with projects from you already :P


oh, btw, talked with ebc at sema, they said that ANY of their local retailers can get the rotors we talked about a while back, and if they cant he gave me his card to have them call to get ahold of them...
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 02:20 AM
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Ill keep you in the loop. I know it can be done, the issue is the ETB
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Ill keep you in the loop. I know it can be done, the issue is the ETB
sweet
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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threadjack... would you need a tune to run meth on a na 2.2?
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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yes sir, as meth will increase the overall octane for your fuel, and must be accounted for.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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ok i was pretty sure you did... kind of a silly question but could you run an intercooler on a naturally aspirated car and see any gain with it? the only reason i ask is im going fi within a year and it would be nice to already have it on the car i just want something different and get all the power i can for right now.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 09blackonblack
ok i was pretty sure you did... kind of a silly question but could you run an intercooler on a naturally aspirated car and see any gain with it? the only reason i ask is im going fi within a year and it would be nice to already have it on the car i just want something different and get all the power i can for right now.
No, youd see a loss with an intercooler.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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ITB's Ecotec from Kinsler





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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Yup and thats the more expensive version with auxillary injectors. You dont need those injectors.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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http://www.ultrarev.com/product.php?...3&cat=0&page=5

any words on these with a lowered car? and how much is the cheaper kit?
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
No, youd see a loss with an intercooler.
thanks maven... could you tell me why you would lose power? just because of restrictions? or what?
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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the air velocity would be slowed wayyyyy down and the main reason FI cars need an IC is the air is hotter comming out of a FI system, i think, if im wrong fix it!
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Yup and thats the more expensive version with auxillary injectors. You dont need those injectors.
this the one you were talking about hat is 2k+???"
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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Yup, those are Kinslers, i said Kinsler makes a setup over $2000, ergo those are what I was talking about.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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yep your dead right... thats the purpose in the h.e and i kinda figured that was the reason i would lose power and thought that might be an issue with running it without any kind of fi
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Yup, those are Kinslers, i said Kinsler makes a setup over $2000, ergo those are what I was talking about.
i saw the year old thread on the other forum...good info...

do you know how it retains all the stock use of brake booster and such?
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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i might have missed it but what kind of gains will i see by installing meth on my 2.2? snow performance has a kit for the cobalt that is run off the maf sensor... would you still need a tune with that kit?
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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link please and Ill check it out
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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go to snow performances website then chevy then gas then cobalt. im on my cell or i would give you a link
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