at 18psi??

wtf .. you're retarded lol

unless you mean 9psi then meh ok

but thats still not true..

seriously get outta this guys thread if you're just gonna bash him .. he's doing what he wants.. and for the record.. 2.4's don't have much of a head problem.. ask hahn... that pro enough for ya?

 

thanks elecblue

 

::smacksheadintodesk::

I give up

 

now are u giving up because he proved u wrong.....or because his statement on the headwork is wrong.......or because everything said is wrong....... because if so, please elaborate.

i dont see your logic. xcobalt05x has a fully built motor, looking at his sig says a lot, and not to mention he has stage 1 cams i believe, i think hes covered a lot of bases.

again i wanna see this thing in action before i say its a success. but i wouldnt deam it a failure or ill prepared. hes the 1st, pioneering territory if u will.

keep us updated adam

 

thanks james, apreciate the support, as everyone (well, the majority anyway) seams to rather be bashing then rather except that someone is trying something new and different

 

get that thing up and running, dont let other poepl say ****, just get it running and working, than dyno it, an djust post #'s, thats all you can really do, i know i have people ask me how much im looking to get, i say idk, im not going to guess it, cuz i wont know till im on the dyno, i tell them what i want though

 

i got some help from a few of the other turbo charged cobalt owners here about how they tapped in the oil feed line to the trubo.... so they car should be done now by friday

 

good, im using the feed and drain that the hahn kit uses, the gallery plug in the back of the block, an the drain the the dimple on top of the oil pan

 

is it in the head? or in the block? the galley plug i mean, my drain will be going back to the filler cap

 

see personally i don't like sts mount systems.. they don't seem like the best way to do things among other hings.. hell i was in the thread back in the day bashing you with everyone else

.. however.. you're doing something totally new... and you're doing / have done.. more **** to you 2.2 then i think anyone on the site.. so i'm not gonna judge on if a success or failure until you finish...

people bash me for wanting to go procharged.. but i want to be different .. and whats most important is are you doing what YOU want to do.. because if you are .. then **** everyone else

 

thanks elecblue.... my main purpose for even getting this kit was because i was sold on how loud the spooling sound was... it drowned out the supercharger whine.... from both ststurbo.com and from dtp they both said the loudness of the turbo spooling has nothing to do with the engine size, its the turbo itself and since this is the exact same turbo that they used on the mustang gt set up.... im sold on how loud the spooling will be.... that was the main reason for me going to dtp yesterday was to get spooling vid's but, they didnt have the oil system connected...

i got some helpful info from a few members on the site that converted to turbo and/or made their 2.4/2.2 turbo about were to tap in for oil... i called dtp today about it and i called them last night and left a message for them, when they answered the phone this morning he told me that he got the message and that was the first thing they did today and the oil system is up and running just fine and its pumping back up to the engine like a champ.... they took out a piece of the charge pipping so that boost isnt going to the motor until they finish the PCV system... they explained that to me and is pretty much a check valve type system that keeps me from sending boost into the valve cover from that hose that is connected to the breather port.... the breather port has to be incorperated with the turbo system to keep the car emissions legal

 

xCobalt05x all the power to you man. This is a forum, a place where people are deemed knowledgeably correct and the people who dig further into matters. Shoot, Sir Isaac Newton lived in his house for 20 years developing his laws and other physics mombo jumbo. People thought it was insane that he would take a study on something that has never seen light or existed. Keep up the work, and do not delete this thread again. I was freaking out when you deleted it the first time.

Just by chance though, how much did re-building your engine, turbo set-up and labor total you out to? Cause I was thinking of doing the same or just purchasing a 2008 GSX-r 600.

-Alex

 

just the performance side of the house 5,000 on the motor build with parts and labor, 3600 for the turbo kit but that was with the upgraded bearings to ceramic's in the turbo and the digital boost controller, so far 1,000 in labor and its probably going to come out to 800 more maybe 1,000 more since they had to do a **** ton of fabricating... so i guess that would put me at 9400 to 9600 on the the performance side of the house

10,000 to 10,200 if you include the 2 stage 125hp nitrous set up i use to have on it

 

that is alot of mulah, you better get some serious numbers when your done

 

that would mean using serious boost to get those numbers. im not trying to get 400+whp.... yet.... need better CV axels first.... im only going 10psi of boost.... pretty much the only reason i went with forged internals and built the motor to handle so much power is so that i can run boost at low psi and not have to worry about breaking something inside the motor. according to the GM ecotec build guide the stock 2.2L rods and pistons were only good to 250chp safely

 

yup thats what the book says, and about the oil feed line, it it from a gallery plug in the back of the block, take it off and that is where the oil will feed from, dont take it from the head, i dont have a pic of it, buts its the one on top of where that one nig ass pipe runs thru the back of the engine, its above it to the passenger side, you can only see it from under the car, and the return can be done in the bottom of the block, there i a spot in the middle that has a dimple on it, thats where you can tap for the return line, same place im doin it, and those are the spot that hahn uses so they do work

 

lol that big ass bolt is not a gallery plug... that would be the hydrolic tentioner for the timing chain... trust me on that one, im all to familiar about that thing... that led to the destruction of my engine when i tried to do a cam swap myself instead of letting a pro shop do it

and i already got the info i need from other members that are turbo now on where to get the oil from.... they are just having a hard time finding a fitting that has the same threads as the gallery hole... hopefully tomorrow they will have the issue resolved

 

lemme upload the pic of it for you



http://www.vulcanturbo.com/Turboothers.html
you can get the thread converter from there, they have the oen that converts the threading on the ecotec block to 1/8" threading, which should make it easier to run a line off of
Metric Bolt Thread to NPT Pipe Thread Fittings
Utilize factory oil holes that are metric bolt thread by converting bolt threads to pipe threads.


Metric Bolt to NPT Fitting Specs

Fitting Material: Zinc Plated Steel
Working Pressure: X
Operating Temperatures: -65 to +400 F

Fitting Price

M12x1.75 Male to 1/8"NPT Female* $16.50

i hope that helps, that will convert the gallery plug on the ecotec block onto standard threading insteado of metric, which should help with the feed line, and i hope the pics help you out too, i copy and pasted that straight f rom the hanh kit install PDF i have saved on my comp for refrence, it only copied the pic, but i circled the plug i was alking about, that no look like nothin to do ith the tensioner if you look at it, and it shows the drain boss aswell(dimple thing)

 

thanks for that help Jn2.... i gave the info to DTP and they ordered the fitting this morning and they said it will be here wednesday or thursday next week... So i told them to finish up the rest of the stuff that needs to be done so that when it does come all that is left to do is hook up the oil and test the oiling system

 

no problem, glad to pass on thhe info i have aquired, plus i knwo trifeca is waiting to hear from you on that tune of theirs

 

i left a message for vince that there was a delay.

 

update?

 

they are still waiting for that fitting to come in from vulcanturbo

DTP called me today and let me know they are done with everything they can do, now they are just waiting on the part from vulcan turbo... as soon as that comes in it will take 20 min to install it and check the oil system to make sure it works...

Some one needs to own up!!!!!!, we had to call sts turbo to find out how to install the PCV system and it turns out there are 4 cobalt 2.2l running around out in Utah with an sts kit on them and working perfectly

 

breather filter ftw!!!!

 

Oh my... what massive failure have we served up and how did we not stumble on this last week?

First off... is Rangerondubz the only person in this thread who isn't clouded by tunnel vision? Seriously... the guy is pointing out some legit points and you're all too sandy vag'd about it to stop and think.

Second... Directly comparing a Honda engine and an Ecotec isn't not a smart practice at all.

Third.... Yes, the STS dude has a 'built engine' but I believe that he will most likely not see the same power as his Honda buddies do , despite the build.

I'm simply pointing this stuff out.... I'll explain if no one can't put it together yet.