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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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STS feedback

I been lookin around for a decent STS, i wanted the one in the SS but ls's dont have the reverse mech in them =/....There is so many pro's and con's to the ones i been lookin at(cosmo,TWM,B&m) i wanted to get feedback from people who have already installed, thanks in advance for the help.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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What exactly is the down side to TWM? That's prolly the best one out
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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what is the down to the cosmo one? i see nothing wrong with it, been running it in my car for more than a year...no issues at all



thats the cosmo racing shifter on my car

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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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i have the TWM and i love it! the only part i guess you can consider a downside is you have to cut things in order for it to fit. its real easy to do though. took me 45 mins.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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twm FTW!!!!!
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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i didnt cut a damn thing, everything fit and installed with only a rachet and sockets, no saws, no knifes, no cutting at required for the cosmo
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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Cosmo FTW.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/cosmo-short-throw-shifter-review-152141/
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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i have the cosmo in my car very easy to install nice smooth shifts over stock slighty shorter throws. if you want shorter throws go with twm because the difference in throws from stock to cosmo isn't that big or at least i couldn't tell much of a difference but i still love it. which ever one you go with you will be happy just a matter of how much you what to do for installation and PRICE!!!
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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TWM.

TWM, and uh..

TWM!

Don't let the whole cutting ****, part of the installation scare you. It's literally nothing.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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cutting? wtf r u guys cutting? the cosmo one fits in there, no cutting anything
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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i use the ebay MK1 but i dont know if it will work for yours.. works great but i have a ion
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Hey JN2, Where did you get your e-brake handle?
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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ebrake mod check the how to section; its a relatively easy mod, and is way better than having a brick for a hand brake
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Thanx

I cant find the how-to for the ebrake mod. Do you remeber who posted it?

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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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i made my own. not really short throw. just short rode. stock rod cut down 2inches. lol
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PSHHH
I been lookin around for a decent STS, i wanted the one in the SS but ls's dont have the reverse mech in them =/....There is so many pro's and con's to the ones i been lookin at(cosmo,TWM,B&m) i wanted to get feedback from people who have already installed, thanks in advance for the help.
This question comes up very often so I'm going to help you out with this one

TWM STS
Pros:
-Shortest throws of any STS out there
-High quality materials
-Firmer/Solid shifts as it comes with washers that replace your rubber ones
-Reliable. TWM has a good reputation

Cons:
-High Price ($160-$180 Average)
-Requires taking apart nearly the whole centre console to install
-Requires cutting a small piece of plastic (Not too dramatic but still has to be done)
-Some have said that the shifter gets too close to the 2 drink holders in the centre console when in 1st,3rd and 5th gear. This is only what I heard.

Cosmo STS
Pros:
-Low Cost ($50 to $65 Average)
-Easy to install (No cutting just drops right in)
-Does not require to take the whole centre console apart. You can just remove the top shift console cover and your done.
-Easily can go back to the stock shifter if ever want to sell the car. (Leased Car, upgrading to SS)
-I have not had any problems with my shifter hitting my drink with my cosmo ever. Probably because of the curve in the cosmo STS shaft.

Cons:
-Not as short throws as the TWM
-The throws are less firm due to the fact that your not replacing the rubber washers with solid ones like on the TWM
-You have to knockout a pin to remove the Reverse Lockout. (Fairly easy to do)
-Not Ebay quality but TWM is a much higher quality piece

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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Thanks for the help, has anyone tried out the B&M at all, so far from what i heard i think ima go with the cosmo just incase i dont like the shorter throws and i can put it back to stock if i need to
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pacific cobalt
This question comes up very often so I'm going to help you out with this one

TWM STS
Pros:
-Shortest throws of any STS out there
-High quality materials
-Firmer/Solid shifts as it comes with washers that replace your rubber ones
-Reliable. TWM has a good reputation

Cons:
-High Price ($160-$180 Average)
-Requires taking apart nearly the whole centre console to install
-Requires cutting a small piece of plastic (Not too dramatic but still has to be done)
-Some have said that the shifter gets too close to the 2 drink holders in the centre console when in 1st,3rd and 5th gear. This is only what I heard.
Not to be the TWM fan boi or anything but I just want to address the statements above and provide more info to help. He is correct the shifter is a little pricey but it is worth the money. When you shift after the install it is so smooth and a great improvement.

As far as taking apart the whole console this is true you have to take everything out from the front cup holders to the rear cup holders. It's not that big of a deal though. The console is held together mainly by clips and like 4 screws...Everything just pops off really easy. Just dont tug at it, gently but progressively pull and they just pop out.

Cutting a small piece of plastic is required as well well but it's just a little notch about maybe a 1/4 of an inch thick and can be done with simple cutting tools. I used a dremel.

I always thought the shifter was too close to the cup holders even when it was stock. Then again I always get big gulps and large drinks . But if they're going to be that close than you might as well have a bad ass shifter.
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