Turboed 2007 2.2 Cobalts ONLY
that thing is ungodly!
12-12-2008, 03:56 PM
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I wanna see whats the most somone is running for WHP
my goal with mine is 650WHP
i know with these numbers i am going tohave to go with a Stand alone computer set up witch is pricey!
going to run about 350 ish this summer then upgrade to a GT42R turbo with a GT28R to spool it.
if your gonna flame this then eep it to your self, this is strickly for the turboed 2007 2.2 cobalts
my goal with mine is 650WHP
i know with these numbers i am going tohave to go with a Stand alone computer set up witch is pricey!
going to run about 350 ish this summer then upgrade to a GT42R turbo with a GT28R to spool it.
if your gonna flame this then eep it to your self, this is strickly for the turboed 2007 2.2 cobalts
12-12-2008, 04:45 PM
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12-12-2008, 05:49 PM
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ya im planning on building that 650hp balt myself im getting pretty close to having the motor completely built but this is what i have thus far
i still need:
GM Adjustable Cam Gears
GM Neutral Balance Shafts
GM Hardened Oil Pump Gears
Darton Sleeves
Fidanza Flywheel
Spec stage 3 clutch
Port Flow Port and Polish head
Clevite main and rod bearings
i still need:
GM Adjustable Cam Gears
GM Neutral Balance Shafts
GM Hardened Oil Pump Gears
Darton Sleeves
Fidanza Flywheel
Spec stage 3 clutch
Port Flow Port and Polish head
Clevite main and rod bearings
12-12-2008, 05:50 PM
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Personally i think it the trq number that broke rods simply because HP is only how fast you can apply the force (trq).
half of what he has there ive already got on my car. the other half is sitting on my floor, IE wiseco pistons, the rods, head studs.
12-12-2008, 05:57 PM
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well if thats the case then i should have broke the motor on the dyno already. 258.94whp. i dont think its the HP that is braking them. everyone keeps telling me that GM broke the engine using nitrous that hit 250hp. which im going to bet netted about 270wtrq.
Personally i think it the trq number that broke rods simply because HP is only how fast you can apply the force (trq).
half of what he has there ive already got on my car. the other half is sitting on my floor, IE wiseco pistons, the rods, head studs.
Personally i think it the trq number that broke rods simply because HP is only how fast you can apply the force (trq).
half of what he has there ive already got on my car. the other half is sitting on my floor, IE wiseco pistons, the rods, head studs.
and since when do you have a vulcan turbo manifold.. that big ass wastegate a spearco FMIC and the hahn intake mani
remember i was the one that told you you'd hit just about 260
12-12-2008, 06:06 PM
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you arent the least bit worried on someone stealing your turbo with it being almost by your exhaust?
your alot braver than me, i give you that much.
o thats not a vulcan manifold. its a custom manifold that came out before vulcan did theirs. its made by T1 motorsport
oops sorry i meant T1 race development. a guy by the name of Tony Palo designed it. he also is an extremely well known tuner and has produced a beast of a balt himself
http://www.t1racedevelopment.com/
your alot braver than me, i give you that much.
o thats not a vulcan manifold. its a custom manifold that came out before vulcan did theirs. its made by T1 motorsport
oops sorry i meant T1 race development. a guy by the name of Tony Palo designed it. he also is an extremely well known tuner and has produced a beast of a balt himself
http://www.t1racedevelopment.com/
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12-12-2008, 06:16 PM
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you arent the least bit worried on someone stealing your turbo with it being almost by your exhaust?
your alot braver than me, i give you that much.
o thats not a vulcan manifold. its a custom manifold that came out before vulcan did theirs. its made by T1 motorsport
oops sorry i meant T1 race development. a guy by the name of Tony Palo designed it. he also is an extremely well known tuner and has produced a beast of a balt himself
http://www.t1racedevelopment.com/
your alot braver than me, i give you that much.
o thats not a vulcan manifold. its a custom manifold that came out before vulcan did theirs. its made by T1 motorsport
oops sorry i meant T1 race development. a guy by the name of Tony Palo designed it. he also is an extremely well known tuner and has produced a beast of a balt himself
http://www.t1racedevelopment.com/
12-12-2008, 06:30 PM
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well if thats the case then i should have broke the motor on the dyno already. 258.94whp. i dont think its the HP that is braking them. everyone keeps telling me that GM broke the engine using nitrous that hit 250hp. which im going to bet netted about 270wtrq.
Personally i think it the trq number that broke rods simply because HP is only how fast you can apply the force (trq).
half of what he has there ive already got on my car. the other half is sitting on my floor, IE wiseco pistons, the rods, head studs.
Personally i think it the trq number that broke rods simply because HP is only how fast you can apply the force (trq).
half of what he has there ive already got on my car. the other half is sitting on my floor, IE wiseco pistons, the rods, head studs.
Until I get built, there's no way I'm taking it that high. I'll probably be shooting fire out the exhaust every time because I'll be on such a conservative tune. I'll take 220-230 hp for now.
12-12-2008, 08:07 PM
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Yeah, 250 TQ. Honestly though, do you really want to skate so close to the edge?
Until I get built, there's no way I'm taking it that high. I'll probably be shooting fire out the exhaust every time because I'll be on such a conservative tune. I'll take 220-230 hp for now.
Until I get built, there's no way I'm taking it that high. I'll probably be shooting fire out the exhaust every time because I'll be on such a conservative tune. I'll take 220-230 hp for now.
12-12-2008, 08:21 PM
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Yeah, 250 TQ. Honestly though, do you really want to skate so close to the edge?
Until I get built, there's no way I'm taking it that high. I'll probably be shooting fire out the exhaust every time because I'll be on such a conservative tune. I'll take 220-230 hp for now.
Until I get built, there's no way I'm taking it that high. I'll probably be shooting fire out the exhaust every time because I'll be on such a conservative tune. I'll take 220-230 hp for now.
same here :p no need to drive on the edge of disaster :p 220-230whp and ull be hanging with other mild boosted cars, if not beating them :p 230whp>sr20det, lsj, most VW's, most hondas, pre 05 mustangs gt's, etc etc...all that consirering they are stock :p(except the lsj, it might need stgII)
stg II i pulled 3 cars on from a dig and it was a dead even tie from a 40 roll
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12-12-2008, 08:24 PM
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and ur using a pretty decent sized turbo remotely mounted, so you have thing working against you too, bigger turbo, located in the back of the car lol, yeah im not pushing for than 230 when im done, but if it goes over a bit i wont mind
12-12-2008, 08:32 PM
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yes they broke it because of trq.. hp is a number derived from trq also it broke because of the sudden force a single shot of nitrous puts on the car
and since when do you have a vulcan turbo manifold.. that big ass wastegate a spearco FMIC and the hahn intake mani
remember i was the one that told you you'd hit just about 260
and since when do you have a vulcan turbo manifold.. that big ass wastegate a spearco FMIC and the hahn intake mani
remember i was the one that told you you'd hit just about 260
Just to bad im building another forged motor. wish the number 4 cyl rod bearing wouldnt have faild before i had a chance to mess witht he turbo. but thats what i get for leaving the car with a suposid "friend" while i was on deployment.
yep, you did call the 260 guess right and only on 10psi. everyone else was like "OMG remote mount, 10psi, you will be lucky to make 220-230. They were WAAAYYYYYY off by about 28-38whp. lol i was only heading there to expect a 240ish pull and i flipped when i saw the chart hit almost 260
wow very nice, stgIII and roll, i guess turbo pwn'd the lsj again, all that wheel spin/hop they get not worth the extra 10k over the ls :p and ur using a pretty decent sized turbo remotely mounted, so you have thing working against you too, bigger turbo, located in the back of the car lol, yeah im not pushing for than 230 when im done, but if it goes over a bit i wont mind
and ur using a pretty decent sized turbo remotely mounted, so you have thing working against you too, bigger turbo, located in the back of the car lol, yeah im not pushing for than 230 when im done, but if it goes over a bit i wont mindi dont really mind the slight turbo lag that i have, keeps me from having "traction" problems off the line
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12-12-2008, 08:49 PM
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i was speaking in general, i have a t60-1 hiflow hybrid w/ ceramic ball bearings, an intercooler, a TiAL waste gate, TiAL 70mm BoV.
Just to bad im building another forged motor. wish the number 4 cyl rod bearing wouldnt have faild before i had a chance to mess witht he turbo. but thats what i get for leaving the car with a suposid "friend" while i was on deployment.
yep, you did call the 260 guess right and only on 10psi. everyone else was like "OMG remote mount, 10psi, you will be lucky to make 220-230. They were WAAAYYYYYY off by about 28-38whp. lol i was only heading there to expect a 240ish pull and i flipped when i saw the chart hit almost 260
traction problems. he started in 1st gear and had the thing reving high. by the time he actually cought traction i was alraedy 2 cars a head and by the time we hit 80 he was right there on my back bumper/rear quarter. someone with a driver mod would have beat me by a fender or half a car
i dont really mind the slight turbo lag that i have, keeps me from having "traction" problems off the line
Just to bad im building another forged motor. wish the number 4 cyl rod bearing wouldnt have faild before i had a chance to mess witht he turbo. but thats what i get for leaving the car with a suposid "friend" while i was on deployment.
yep, you did call the 260 guess right and only on 10psi. everyone else was like "OMG remote mount, 10psi, you will be lucky to make 220-230. They were WAAAYYYYYY off by about 28-38whp. lol i was only heading there to expect a 240ish pull and i flipped when i saw the chart hit almost 260
traction problems. he started in 1st gear and had the thing reving high. by the time he actually cought traction i was alraedy 2 cars a head and by the time we hit 80 he was right there on my back bumper/rear quarter. someone with a driver mod would have beat me by a fender or half a car
i dont really mind the slight turbo lag that i have, keeps me from having "traction" problems off the line
12-13-2008, 01:22 AM
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i was speaking in general, i have a t60-1 hiflow hybrid w/ ceramic ball bearings, an intercooler, a TiAL waste gate, TiAL 70mm BoV.
Just to bad im building another forged motor. wish the number 4 cyl rod bearing wouldnt have faild before i had a chance to mess witht he turbo. but thats what i get for leaving the car with a suposid "friend" while i was on deployment.
yep, you did call the 260 guess right and only on 10psi. everyone else was like "OMG remote mount, 10psi, you will be lucky to make 220-230. They were WAAAYYYYYY off by about 28-38whp. lol i was only heading there to expect a 240ish pull and i flipped when i saw the chart hit almost 260
traction problems. he started in 1st gear and had the thing reving high. by the time he actually cought traction i was alraedy 2 cars a head and by the time we hit 80 he was right there on my back bumper/rear quarter. someone with a driver mod would have beat me by a fender or half a car
i dont really mind the slight turbo lag that i have, keeps me from having "traction" problems off the line
Just to bad im building another forged motor. wish the number 4 cyl rod bearing wouldnt have faild before i had a chance to mess witht he turbo. but thats what i get for leaving the car with a suposid "friend" while i was on deployment.
yep, you did call the 260 guess right and only on 10psi. everyone else was like "OMG remote mount, 10psi, you will be lucky to make 220-230. They were WAAAYYYYYY off by about 28-38whp. lol i was only heading there to expect a 240ish pull and i flipped when i saw the chart hit almost 260
traction problems. he started in 1st gear and had the thing reving high. by the time he actually cought traction i was alraedy 2 cars a head and by the time we hit 80 he was right there on my back bumper/rear quarter. someone with a driver mod would have beat me by a fender or half a car
i dont really mind the slight turbo lag that i have, keeps me from having "traction" problems off the line
Yeah, that's a really good point. Most people don't take into account the ill affects of instant low end power on FWD, especially cobalts.
How much you think I'll be making with 7 psi on a .57 trim .63ar? Anyone want to take a guess? I'm guessing around 200-220, which really is fine for me, for now. Heh, I can't wait for people to be guessing my build next. Not that I'm shooting for anything spectacular right out of the gates.
Btw, haven't got the package yet. Guess I'll have to wait til monday, lol, I was going to mount the IC tomorrow.
12-13-2008, 01:32 AM
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Remember, this is the same tranny that is put into larger V6 platforms such as the malibu.
Hey, this is cool. Apparently the new HHR SS comes in a auto 4T45 form as well. That's a whopping 260 HP/TQ in stock form!
If they can handle 260 HP/TQ reliably, then there's no question that they can hold 300+. And with a ~$500 rebuild kit, you're looking at a tranny capable of 400+. For now though, just a tune and a tranny cooler to make it giggle.
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