x8xViperx6x

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I EDITed link its also on the first page

Jn2

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nice, should be good to start tuning, and you will def need a itake, the stock one wont let you get them most outta your new set up :p dragonfire had the stock one with airbox mod and was very disappointed with the whine, can be so much better with a real intake...

ps ill be selling mine soon, upgrading to the ZZP 3", i have a KnN

x8xViperx6x

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should be getting an intake later today from a local, injen.

Ive had the tuning cable for a few days now, but i have not heard from vince yet, so im not sure what do as of now... i wanna be able to drive my car to work tonight.. lol..

Jn2

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neve liked the injen , theyput their damn big ass logo on the damn thing in the flahiest location...disfuckingcusting....KnN keeps it simple...and does the same thing...

pyromaniak04

viper wants to know if it is okay to run his car with the basic tune from trifecta

Gene Culley

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If Vince sent him a tune already then yes, load it, run it, data log it and then send it back to him.

I bought the Injen intake and the logo is on there with 3M sticky tape so you can remove it if you'd like. No big deal.

x8xViperx6x

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Yes he sent me the tune i uploaded it. Started it. And saw 14-15 afr at idle and revved it a little maybe to three k saw 16 afr ill have to try again, to be sure.. Should i stay under a certain rpm? I know not to smash it just kinda worried imma break something is all.

Gene Culley

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What you want to look for is when you drive it, don't go WOT until you see that you are getting power enrichment. I don't know the exact parameters, but around 50% throttle the A/F ratio should drop to the 10's and then go up to as far as 11.5 to 11.8 at WOT.

A lot of times when Vince sends the tune (just from talking with others) he doesn't do something properly with the power enrichment. If you don't see at 50% throttle, or a little more, an immediate drop to the 10's then it isn't working and don't do any WOT runs.

I sent him logs at idle and he said, oh no problem, you are free to do some WOT runs and then I do it and he tells me I'm not getting power enrichment and here I am doing all of these 1-3 gear WOT runs running really lean.

x8xViperx6x

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Ok cool. I will start with a data log at idle tomorrow morning. Then send it off. See what he says. So what exactly is power enrichment? And how do i know when my car reaches it?

HunterKiller89

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power enrichment is when the car stops running a 14.7:1 AFR and starts running more fuel (like 11.0:1 AFR).

You should see your car richen up on a wideband (im assuming you have one...if not, then dont go WOT on the first run).

You should be in PE by 5psi...if your not, then tell vince. if you dont have a wideband, just datalog a run where you hit 5psi and send it to him. he'll be able to tell you if PE was working fine.

x8xViperx6x

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Ok cool. I do have a wideband ill keep an eye on that. Tomorrow will start data logging.

IonNinja

Hey sorry man I didn't get your PM until it was too late.

You can drive the car with the base tune, just stay in cruise and it will stay around 14.7AFR. Basically, stay outta boost and the car will drive like stock.

When you start tuning you'll have to go into boost eventually, just let out immediately if it goes lean (above 12.0AFR).

pyromaniak04

last night, i saw high 14s-mid15s at idle! revved to 3k went to 16-17, so i knew there was something wrong, I was going to data log it but a code popped up, p0201 injector on cyl 1 so i ohm'd it out it was good (matched the other injectors at 12.5ohms) so I checked the wiring and the solder broke.. so fixed that. Went to turn it back on and... no start. Turned key to "on" relays started to click, CEL and Security light were blinking. Im guessing my battery is low, cause when I tried to turn her over it just clicked.. So I am just waiting till my friend gets here to try to jump me.. I checked voltage on battery its at 11.47v so.. a bit low.. Will see soon, I hope I can drive it to and from work today..

x8xViperx6x

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hey no big, was just trying to get it run like asap.. just excited i guess.

Anyway last night, i saw mid15s-high 15s at idle! revved to 3k went to 16-17, so i knew there was something wrong, I was going to data log it but a code popped up, p0201 injector on cyl 1 so i ohm'd it out it was good (matched the other injectors at 12.5ohms) so I checked the wiring and the solder broke.. so fixed that. Went to turn it back on and... no start. Turned key to "on" relays started to click, CEL and Security light were blinking. Im guessing my battery is low, cause when I tried to turn her over it just clicked.. So I am just waiting till my friend gets here to try to jump me.. I checked voltage on battery its at 11.47v so.. a bit low.. Will see soon, I hope I can drive it to and from work today..

glen229

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it might already have been asked, but in the video where is the map sensor? since its not on the blower?

x8xViperx6x

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its on the intake manifold where the iat2 would normally go, the iat1 sensor doesnt fit so it required sometime of gasket, (I used a small piece of rubber hose cut a hole in it) and also needs something to hold it in, due to it not having the same hole as the iat2 to hold it in place. I used a piece of metal with a hole in it to keep it down. Works.

glen229

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i went to the zzp 3" and im very impressed, its quite the bitch getting it in there, they put the coupler in the worst possible spot, i had to pry my coolant take out of the way to get a wrench on it

x8xViperx6x

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So managed to start her up by rolling down the drive way and putting it in gear drop clutch. Started right up. She idled very nicely this time. Got to data log at idle. Then took a light cruise also data logged that. Everything was good till i parked and noticed she is running a bit got due to low coolant.. oops. So will continue tune tomorrow.

Gene Culley

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I think glen was asking why there is no MAP in the supercharger. Viper did (copied lol) what I did and put a hex socket plug in the hole. It is better looking (in my opinion) and cheaper than a sensor.

Good to hear you got it started. I ran my battery down while I was installing mine too.

Sorry I didn't get back here to answer your A/F ratio question fast enough, but Hunter did a great job answering.

Just have to watch the A/F ratio. Once you go about 50% throttle the power enrichment should kick in.

fakameanrepresent

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thats pretty cool. 2.2 with a S/C

x8xViperx6x

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Yes gene i did copy because it was much cheaper! and looks way better imo. so thanks lol. i actually just read everyones builds and took here and there. i did fab my own brackets for my cobra he i will post how i did maybe later. kinda give back what i took maybe. lol so tomorrow hopefully vince gets back with an update. maybe ill get to see some boost! i work at four pm and get off at four am so i dont get to do much tuning each day.. meh thanks!

x8xViperx6x

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Ok, well took her out yesterday and she ran fine, filled her up with coolant, temps were alot better. Took her for a spin, semi-moderate, hit 5psi it did jump down to 10 afr, so she is going into power enrichment, so thats good. Going to update the data logs, and see from there.

I did get back to the garage, opened the hood, it seemed very hot under there... I could touch the supercharger (was only like a 5 mile drive, started at op temp.) it was hot but not were I couldnt touch it, the pulley on the other hand was fn hot couldnt touch at all.. is this normal? is it cause its a 2.9"? My iat was at 100*f which is only 10* over ambient.

Jn2

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i did the same thing, i think i posted a how to on that lol....

x8xViperx6x

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lol, I think I read it before, really just used stuff lying around.. hey does your pulley get really hot were you cant touch it?

I think im going to try to check the oil level, maybe that has something to do with it..

HunterKiller89

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ive never felt the pulley directly....ill check that out for you today.

edit: although the amount of friction used on the pulley by the belt to turn it could very well make it very hot, so its not unreasonable