what i ment by lsj having problems is what i have experienced in person

my buddy with a lsj has to get his supercharger replaced because its making a grinding noise

my sisters unmolested stock ss/sc vibrates really bad at idle and randomly shuts off on the highway

 

i agree with you on this, i know a few people that had issues, esp with 2005s.

 

as others said 2.2 and 2.4 mods are mostly interchangable. the 2.4 also has HPtuners so they have more potential. many people still dont want to mess with trifecta mail tuning for the 2.2.

 

It's 148 HP@ 5600 and 152 lb-ft @ 4200. It appears that you have the rev the 2.2L LAP a bit more to get both max power and torque.

09 HHR still has the 2.4L engine BTW. It' hasn't been totally killed off just yet.

 

I guess my Ion with the 2.4 is rare lol

What ever, it's a nice motor I just hated the fact that it had to run 93 from the factory. I cant complain to much since I would have to run it any ways since Im tuned now

 

Sorry I was comparing to to my 2006 L61, 145hp/155tq.

 

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why? If you gonna repost that pic.... how bout explanation.

 

The 2.2's not peaky already? Oh...

 

it seems that everyone is turning into high mpg, low emission freaks
thus the ending of the 2.4

 

stupid oil issues

all these big muscle cars and 2.4L 4 cylinders are gonna be a thing of the past for a while

 

NEVER did I ever think I'd hear 2.4 and muscle car uttered together in the same sentence.

 

I think the 2.4 remains the base engine in the g6 and malibu, they are just slimming down the options in the cobalt line.

 

yeah i can see why they want to remove it but i just think they shouldn't there isn't much need for the weaker motor when people have gotten such good MPG with the 2.4

 

MPG has nothing to do with it.... The base model cobalts are designed to be econo boxes.

12k, 18k and 23k

If you are targeting the car enthusiast who wants HP and handling you offer the top of the line model.

If you are targeting the people who just want a car to go from point A to point B.... which one are you going to sell more of?

the 2.4 was what, we call, a straddler. It wanted to appeal to both the econo model drivers and a performance drivers, and in the process, appealed to less of each. They made their divide. You want performance or basic transport and the 2.4 does not fit in the business model.

 

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The 2.4 ecotec will still be put into cars, just not the Balt.

 

I agree. No issues at all with my motor, and i beat the **** out of my car. hehe, its going to be sold very soon though.

 

In a way you are right Orngbalt, BUT if you phase out the 2.2 the 2.4 then becomes the A to B car and not the middle straddler. I like my 2.4 and I would much rather drive this then a Cruze

 

the supercharger has nothing really to do with the motor, its a seperate part.

if it shuts off its probably electrical, so again nothing with the motor.

dont call out a motor and say its the best series of motor, when you cannot back it up. the lsj is a very strong motor, you dont see boosted 2.4's that have over 400whp on stock internals and block do you? all the motors are good for what they need to do, and your opinion was the 2.4 is the best motor, but do research before throwing something under the bus.

 

if i am not mistaken, Hahn has done this. You also need to chill, he states that it was in his experience.

 

Actually I'm sure it could handle it for a while, jsut like the LSJ. The clutch would be a problem, but all you need is a amtter of time before either engine gives in and can't handle the power without upgraded internals.

 

The 2.4 is still a middle straddler in the industry then. Because you would then market it as the econobox but charge too much for it.

It would be even more of a straddler at that point. and you would lose alot of sales because you are no longer competing on that 12k price level that some base models are at.

 

LKE WISE

 

If they madea 2.4 turbo then they would have done so instead of the 2.0 and then they would still be removing a model from the line. Because once again they would have two separate SS's

This will be good for the aftermarket. HP Tuners will have to work harder to crack the new SS and maybe even the base models.

Parts will get very specific and you will see more and more parts for base models because the 2.4 was basically a base model designed for the enthusiast. Now you will have an SS and a base model. So more and more will be made for 2.2's

 

You win