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Old 08-23-2007, 11:47 PM
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i got the m62 blower(350.00shipped)....bosch ic pump(89.00 shipped)..stock pulley, belt, and ss/sc injectors(60.00shipped)..dats what i got so far....im getting some more parts soon and whatever i cant get im buying of rebel

and i just bougt an a/f ration gauge for 25.oo

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Originally Posted by Jimmys2007CobaltSS/C
i got the m62 blower(350.00shipped)....bosch ic pump(89.00 shipped)..stock pulley, belt, and ss/sc injectors(60.00shipped)..dats what i got so far....im getting some more parts soon and whatever i cant get im buying of rebel

and i just bougt an a/f ration gauge for 25.oo
whered you get the intercooler pump from?...seems like so far your making out...at even better prices then i mirrored when i added everything up....what a/f did you get?...hopefully a reiable one that is already setup with hptuners?...thats what im trying to get right now
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oh never thought about that i bought it off some guy on the site....do u need a certain one..im going to get a wideband and boost gauge in the future,, i got i/c pump of ebay ...rebel linked it to me and i bought it,,, pm rebel if u need help or any questions...hes a good guy.. I got a really good deal on the blower...its heavier than i expected..25Lbs lol....

we have to use a stg 2 belt ...so my stock belt is no good,,but it came wit the pkg i got
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Originally Posted by Jimmys2007CobaltSS/C
oh never thought about that i bought it off some guy on the site....do u need a certain one..im going to get a wideband and boost gauge in the future,, i got i/c pump of ebay ...rebel linked it to me and i bought it,,, pm rebel if u need help or any questions...hes a good guy.. I got a really good deal on the blower...its heavier than i expected..25Lbs lol....

we have to use a stg 2 belt ...so my stock belt is no good,,but it came wit the pkg i got
yea only certain widebands are pre configured for hptuners....otherwise you have to set them up your self...which is over me so ill get one thats setup right...yea rebel has already helped me a good bit....stg 2 belt...i know what belt to use now....what size injectors are you using? the 34's or the 42's?....i want to use the 42's...id feel a bit better knowing my idc's will be alot lower
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im using the stock 2.0...and stock pulley for now,,i want to see if any1 like senior brown or pjk91 runs a smaller pulley and its safe b40re im doing any of that....it dyno at almost 230whp with the an exhaust and intake...i just added a zzp header and 3"d/p with cat today and it sounds badass....really loud...i cant wait for it to break in bo4re i really floor it...def felt the gain to the wheels right away

def can be close to 240 to 250 whp with the zzp products

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Originally Posted by Jimmys2007CobaltSS/C
im using the stock 2.0...and stock pulley for now,,i want to see if any1 like senior brown or pjk91 runs a smaller pulley and its safe b40re im doing any of that....it dyno at almost 230whp with the an exhaust and intake...i just added a zzp header and 3"d/p with cat today and it sounds badass....really loud...i cant wait for it to break in bo4re i really floor it...def felt the gain to the wheels right away

def can be close to 240 to 250 whp with the zzp products
your saying close to 240-250 with a stock pulley?....230 on a stock pulley right?....ramn that really makes me think 300 is definately achievable....sweet...this route sounds better and better by the minute....i guess we feel boost immeadiately...going up to what rpm?im not sure because our motor is different than the 2.0"s and i dont really follow the 2.0's a whole lot....
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well it reach close to 230 whp on a stock pulley ...if u add the zzp header and d/p to it ..it be close to 240-250 range ..so yea def....to me i dont reallly care...i just want to be boosted and hear that whine all day long
Old 08-24-2007, 08:19 AM
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We can only guess what we are going to hit WHP. I have no idea what I'll get. I'm going with a completely stock 2.4 motor with the M62 components and I'll see what I can get out of that. I also have the 42lb'ers because I definitely plan on upgrading in the future.
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do u have the stock fuel injectors too...will 42 ib"ers worked....

u should drive done to pa and chill wit me lol

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I have the 34'ers as well. I originally bought those because I was going to do a N/A build but then this option came up so I'm going to stick with the 42'ers.
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im gonna run the m62 with the stock parts then eeventually upgrade to stg 2
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I'm putting in the LC-1 right now. It's taking way longer than I wanted it to because:

1) Couldn't find electrical tape ANYWHERE in the house
2) Couldn't find a 7/8" open end ANYWHERE ARRGGHHHHH

but I'm ok now. Just waiting for a second set of hands to come help pull the wire.

Believe it or not, still doing the LC-1. There are quite a few wires to extend in their harness, solder at each point, and then find the input on the ecu....

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are u installing ur s/c NOW?
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Last night we got the Intake manifold and new alternator on. Got the belt off too. Realized that the intake manifold that I purchased is missing a bracket that is at the bottom of it that braces the manifold against the block.

The LC-1 was a nightmare. I rigged it temporarily just to calibrate the sensor, and I THINK it calibrated. But I don't know for sure. It's reading 14.9 (shouldn't it be 14.7?) on the guage with the motor not even running so it isn't calibrated perfectly which bothers me but whatever. I will fix that later.

Many other things came up. Will post back later. Need to go shopping for some bolts.
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hell ya, this is an awesome read good luck man!
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Originally Posted by pjk91
Last night we got the Intake manifold and new alternator on. Got the belt off too. Realized that the intake manifold that I purchased is missing a bracket that is at the bottom of it that braces the manifold against the block.

The LC-1 was a nightmare. I rigged it temporarily just to calibrate the sensor, and I THINK it calibrated. But I don't know for sure. It's reading 14.9 (shouldn't it be 14.7?) on the guage with the motor not even running so it isn't calibrated perfectly which bothers me but whatever. I will fix that later.

Many other things came up. Will post back later. Need to go shopping for some bolts.
im so jealous im so behind on this build....
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Well guys, today completed my build. This is not something that can be done if:

1) You have never worked with HPT
2) Never used a tap
3) Never installed a supercharger before

It's really disappointing, but I'm gonna call it quits and take the car to a local shop that deals with Ecotecs on a regular basis. At one point, we used a torch to bend the dipstick (definitely not in the instructions) to make the Intake Manifold fit. There was grinding involved. Specific torques are required. Stuff I don't know, and the local stealership didn't want to give me.

I could go on for a really long time. I had one issue to deal with after another. Plus, classes start for me next week and I need it to WORK not sorta work.

I'll start a new thread when it's on, and all running.
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thats disappointing to hear man. hope it all turns out perfect
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yea bro....i can never do it myslef either da only thing i put on my car was my cai...when i get all my parts and have the money im gonna take to the local shop where i had all my mods done...

and i put the ss/sc wing on by myself but thats sumthing any idiot can do so dat dont count

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what was the problem with hpt?....and did you follow rebels instructions?
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Yeah I have Rebel's instructions. Personally, I don't think they were as clear as they should have been but Rebel claims that their instructions have been given to others and they are doing fine with them.

I was about 60% done with everything when I realized I didn't have the time to finish it by the end of today and running reliably for me to go back to work tomorrow and classes on Tuesday.

I have HPT but have never used. I got to the part where you change the injector size in there but after that I would have no idea what to do.

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Originally Posted by pjk91
Yeah I have Rebel's instructions. Personally, I don't think they were as clear as they should have been but Rebel claims that their instructions have been given to others and they are doing fine with them.

I was about 60% done with everything when I realized I didn't have the time to finish it by the end of today and running reliably for me to go back to work tomorrow and classes on Tuesday.

I have HPT but have never used. I got to the part where you change the injector size in there but after that I would have no idea what to do.
Sucks that you are not able to finsh it up today, hope that works out for you. With the HPT part, after altering the table to allow for the larger injectors you are going to want to change the PE to command a SAFE AFR till you can get a change to dail it in. Also think about retarding the timing a little to be safe, and disable the COT. I see you have the LC-1 WB good, now you can set up a histogram to log AFR error and dial the MAF in. It will take awhile but go slow and do small changes each time.
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See I'm not even sure if the LC-1 is working properly. My ground was messed up when I first hooked it up, so it went half way through the calibration cycle and then it shut off when I bumped the ground and it unplugged. I know, it wasn't supposed to be a permanent hookup. It was supposed to be temporary only for the LC-1 to calibrate itself then I would permanently install the power and grounds where I wanted them.

Now, the guage is reading 14.9 with the motor off and the sensor in free air (not in the bung). I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's ok because atmosphere is 14.7 so it is off by .2 . I bet if I recalibrated, I would get it down to 14.7. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Sorry, I have no experience with the innovative LC-1 gauge.


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