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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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dude i had the same problem but in my case in my area they was no mor ss and they said it will take 6 to 8 weeks to get so i was screw that so i got the g5 gt. i think the g5 looks better inside they offer more upgrades in thier car than what cobalt does. u have to custom your cobalt to match the g5 stock
Or you could just buy a fully loaded CobaltSS.
Although I will give it to you that the G5 GT is probably the rarer of the two. If you want to go REALLY rare, get a 2.4l Cobalt Sedan SS. I think there's only been five sold in the US
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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I bought a 2.4L 5 speed and i love driving it.. It really wasnt which car was faster to me the auto or the stick.. I just thought that the 5 speed was really fun to drive.. But there is no wrong choice its all dependent on the driver....
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 12:59 AM
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must say that I never drove the manual so I cant tell you if its better than my auto but I know Starting in L it will do 1st and 2nd gear so you need to shift to I before that happens then from their you should go through 3rd and shift to drive. If you like after speeding up a lil more drop back into I and get a nice lil kick, cuz it changes the gear ratios I beleave, and switching to I while having to slow down and speed back up in a hurry is nice too

oh and their is a thread about break toureing in which this same process is explained except you break and rev the engine in low then release giving you a much better take off than a manual because the tourge is already at the wheels, probally would make up for the hp diffrence since tourqe is what makes tha diffrence in the speed
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by roccobladr
if ur looking for something that has a growing aftermarket, growing support, nice looks, decent fuel economy/power. then its good.

if you are looking for something like the ss/sc, then you are looking at the wrong model.

for me, it was good cuz i am getting the good looks, decent mileage and some pep that the cobalt ss/sc brings, but without all the power/manual trans and extra insurance.

it really is just personal preference.
The insurance difference for me was literally ONE dollar a month.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloudio
The auto makes the 5 speed look like a joke stock 4 stock except once you hit the auto's gov. at 120mph the 5 spd. may shine a being as it can do i believe 137mph

however if your looking for zippy acceleration go with the auto noone belives me and everyone will flame but my bestfriend has the 2.4l 5spd and we used to run all time when i was stock simply gear from L to I to D from a break start and I could pull about half a car lenght on him everytime ......

oOoOo but my personal favorite is 2 just unplug my Maf sensor before the race and its a freaking no brainer

I was pretty amazed when I found out myself but once I tried it I never looked at the 5 spd the same ......... and 4 a while i was sooooo pissed I didnt get the 5 spd. owell irony is a bitch hope this helped

if you have any second thoughts or just not 2 sure fly out 2 vegas you can drive my buddies car and will go at it stock 4 stock .....you cant deny what you see with your own eyes lol

hope this helps .
are u serious?

stock for stock i hold the best time for a 2.4SS so i would doubt a auto stock makes my 5 speed look like a joke? a tune is different i understand the potental with a auto tune is very good..but stock for stock..not a chance
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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well maybe someone with a faster auto time just hasnt not got it posted but you do obvioulsy have faster times than some of the manuals(nice time btw)
I would probally say that his friend isnt the best manual driver and he dusts him in his auto because of this reason, must also say you still shouldnt underestamate the auto 2.4 Mine seems to do fine and just knowing how to press the gas peddle in diffrent gears makes a diffrence instead of just flooring it you can re press the gas durriing diffrent gears and usually half way pressing till u get to 35 and fully pressing it beyond that gets alot better response

curiouse to how the air pressure in canada would effect the times because someone in texas and someone in NewYOrk would have total diffrent times even in the same car and driver. But taking the pressure or atmosperic pressure into consideration would you be adding time or taking away, and about how much. I really dont know and not trying to knock you projkt You probally have taken this into consideration in stating that your time is to be proven fastest at stock. I am just perosnally curiouse in the diffrence

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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by yoppzilla
well maybe someone with a faster auto time just hasnt not got it posted but you do obvioulsy have faster times than some of the manuals(nice time btw)
I would probally say that his friend isnt the best manual driver and he dusts him in his auto because of this reason, must also say you still shouldnt underestamate the auto 2.4 Mine seems to do fine and just knowing how to press the gas peddle in diffrent gears makes a diffrence instead of just flooring it you can re press the gas durriing diffrent gears and usually half way pressing till u get to 35 and fully pressing it beyond that gets alot better response

curiouse to how the air pressure in canada would effect the times because someone in texas and someone in NewYOrk would have total diffrent times even in the same car and driver. But taking the pressure or atmosperic pressure into consideration would you be adding time or taking away, and about how much. I really dont know and not trying to knock you projkt You probally have taken this into consideration in stating that your time is to be proven fastest at stock. I am just perosnally curiouse in the diffrence
thanks for the good words +rep. by any means im not dissing the auto 2.4 it is a very peepy and quick transmission and used right is comparably to the manual but to say itll smoke the 5 spd..thats a joke..
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:48 AM
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curiouse to how the air pressure in canada would effect the times because someone in texas and someone in NewYOrk would have total diffrent times even in the same car and driver. But taking the pressure or atmosperic pressure into consideration would you be adding time or taking away, and about how much. I really dont know and not trying to knock you projkt You probally have taken this into consideration in stating that your time is to be proven fastest at stock. I am just perosnally curiouse in the diffrence
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by yoppzilla
curiouse to how the air pressure in canada would effect the times because someone in texas and someone in NewYOrk would have total diffrent times even in the same car and driver. But taking the pressure or atmosperic pressure into consideration would you be adding time or taking away, and about how much. I really dont know and not trying to knock you projkt You probally have taken this into consideration in stating that your time is to be proven fastest at stock. I am just perosnally curiouse in the diffrence
yes i have considerd this..and i dont know what to think..its not like alot of winnipegers hold alot of records and im not sure what the pressure was like that day..the temp was about 23 degrees cels if i am correct.

yeah ether i got a factory freak, or i shifted better then the factory driver did? i dont know how to explain it...

that and i ran with a 2.4 5spd cobalt that day and he had CAI and the best he could do was 15.66 ..we factored in everything..and i had my spare still in my trunk..it was my first time at the track..guess luck was on my side
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 01:56 AM
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Oh kool I was wondering If you new the number diffrence up their cuz I seen a few guys on here Say add a sec or take one away before, but Really I think this guy needs to just buy what ever 2.4l he wants lol manuals are cheaper but if you dont wanna drive one get the auto. Me and Projkt seem to think they are both pretty equal I wouldnt favor one inless you like auto or you like manual transmission. I would probally say a manual with project driving it could probally beat ya but definatly one isnt making another look like a joke
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by yoppzilla
Oh kool I was wondering If you new the number diffrence up their cuz I seen a few guys on here Say add a sec or take one away before, but Really I think this guy needs to just buy what ever 2.4l he wants lol manuals are cheaper but if you dont wanna drive one get the auto. Me and Projkt seem to think they are both pretty equal I wouldnt favor one inless you like auto or you like manual transmission. I would probally say a manual with project driving it could probally beat ya but definatly one isnt making another look like a joke
i totaly agree...but im not master stick driver..atleast i dotn consider me one..ive been driving stick for 5000 KM's and im only 17 years old

but i learn things fast lol
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Don't think they are equal in performance. They are not. I have owned both auto and 5 speed 2.4L---probably the only one on the board to do so. I have raced both. Check my sig for times. Maybe with some miles I can get the auto 2.4L down a tenth ot two---but not 0.8

Whoever has a manual and cannot beat the auto cannot drive.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by monkeiboy
Or you could just buy a fully loaded CobaltSS.
Although I will give it to you that the G5 GT is probably the rarer of the two. If you want to go REALLY rare, get a 2.4l Cobalt Sedan SS. I think there's only been five sold in the US
Yeah im one of them and i love my auto in the sedan, in a coupe then i would of got stick.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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Don't think they are equal in performance. They are not. I have owned both auto and 5 speed 2.4L---probably the only one on the board to do so. I have raced both. Check my sig for times. Maybe with some miles I can get the auto 2.4L down a tenth ot two---but not 0.8

Whoever has a manual and cannot beat the auto cannot drive.
The fact that the best you got with an auto was 17 seconds makes me think that something is wrong with your ass math. Most auto drivers at lower altitudes are running between 15.5-15.9 stock while the manuals are between 15.3-15.8 stock.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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is the auto really slower on top end? and yes "******" shifting the auto is a big difference from just leaving it in drive.
dude, wtf is your deal ?
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloudio
The auto makes the 5 speed look like a joke stock 4 stock except once you hit the auto's gov. at 120mph the 5 spd. may shine a being as it can do i believe 137mph

however if your looking for zippy acceleration go with the auto noone belives me and everyone will flame but my bestfriend has the 2.4l 5spd and we used to run all time when i was stock simply gear from L to I to D from a break start and I could pull about half a car lenght on him everytime ......

oOoOo but my personal favorite is 2 just unplug my Maf sensor before the race and its a freaking no brainer

I was pretty amazed when I found out myself but once I tried it I never looked at the 5 spd the same ......... and 4 a while i was sooooo pissed I didnt get the 5 spd. owell irony is a bitch hope this helped

if you have any second thoughts or just not 2 sure fly out 2 vegas you can drive my buddies car and will go at it stock 4 stock .....you cant deny what you see with your own eyes lol

hope this helps .

ey if you change gears from L to I to D doesnt that mess up your car???
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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all cobalts are good =)
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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The fact that the best you got with an auto was 17 seconds makes me think that something is wrong with your ass math. Most auto drivers at lower altitudes are running between 15.5-15.9 stock while the manuals are between 15.3-15.8 stock.
ehhhh, the hot, humid air here, combined with the crappy pavment they use (to take said heat) isn't exactly good for time slips.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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when i was stock with my auto. i ran 15.8 in englishtown, nj..and it was 47* out..hahahaha. now that i have a good amount of mods on the car with the awesome tune..im curious to see what i would run now
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by iLLmaTic3s
when i was stock with my auto. i ran 15.8 in englishtown, nj..and it was 47* out..hahahaha. now that i have a good amount of mods on the car with the awesome tune..im curious to see what i would run now
depends what you got on it. since filling the mounts on my 2.4, i'm convinced that alone would be worth .1 -.2 in the 1/4 just because i can finally launch a bit.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Don't think they are equal in performance. They are not. I have owned both auto and 5 speed 2.4L---probably the only one on the board to do so. I have raced both. Check my sig for times. Maybe with some miles I can get the auto 2.4L down a tenth ot two---but not 0.8

Whoever has a manual and cannot beat the auto cannot drive.
ditto. this thread will go on forever. Just get what you want kid. You dont sound like yer gonna race it or even mod it right away so get whatever you want. Chances are you will be limited in your choices once you go car shopping. You could order one but if you live rural, you will be choosing color and stuff over what tranny it has. JMO
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by avro206
Don't think they are equal in performance. They are not. I have owned both auto and 5 speed 2.4L---probably the only one on the board to do so. I have raced both. Check my sig for times. Maybe with some miles I can get the auto 2.4L down a tenth ot two---but not 0.8

Whoever has a manual and cannot beat the auto cannot drive.

100% agreed + rep for this man!
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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u did go from a 5spd coupe or sedan to a auto sedan?
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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ehhhh, the hot, humid air here, combined with the crappy pavment they use (to take said heat) isn't exactly good for time slips.
Well that guy was in Canada, I guarantee you'd run a better time down in Florida, humidity be damned.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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a 2.4l Auto SS vs a 5spd 2.4l SS....

the 5spd will win, if the auto gets a tune, it should be very close..not sure on the outcome tho.

because i know a 5 spd LS is close to as fast as me because i dont have a tune :/

still a fun car though.
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