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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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ecu tune vs unichip

sorry i am new to the car industry but which is more beneficial for power/reliability, an ECU tune or a unichip?

or am i a complete idiot and they are the exact same thing
Old Mar 21, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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I would like to know aswell, also is there any downside of doing a flash tune
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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an ecu is ok for the normal bolt ons but will not extract all the power possible if you were specifically dyno tuning your car, a piggyback ecu would be great since you could custom tune that yourself or have a professional do it to your car
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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an ecu is ok for the normal bolt ons but will not extract all the power possible if you were specifically dyno tuning your car, a piggyback ecu would be great since you could custom tune that yourself or have a professional do it to your car
With all the torque (and other limiters) in the ECM, you almost HAVE to have it to get everything out of the car, short of completely 100% replacing it
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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yeah im waitng fior somethign like the greddy e-manage to come out for our cars so we can fine tune
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
yeah im waitng fior somethign like the greddy e-manage to come out for our cars so we can fine tune
they already have have it! check out your local rl forums
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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they already have have it! check out your local rl forums
what do you mean? can it be used for the 2.4 cobalt? any linkage?
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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i cant link directly from rl forums but ill try! you fill in the spaces!

not to sure about 2.4 but if your close enough to them i dont see why not

www. redlineforums. com/forums/great-lakes-forum/9211-custom-tune-upto-260whp-avalible-local.html

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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they have a different computer than us
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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so unichip > ecu tune?
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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So, Good luck wiht the ECU tune...
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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... i never get straight answers out of these forums
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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... i never get straight answers out of these forums
probably cuz we dont know alot about ecu tuning yet its still very new
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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... i never get straight answers out of these forums
How did you plan to get the ECU Tuned? Basically, my reply to you was just telling you that of the two suggestions you made, one was impossible, thus leaving... your only choice.
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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ECU tune would be the ultimate, however it can only be flashed with the appropriate equipment and will not take into consideration new mods unless reflashed again.

Unichip or E-manage is a piggy-back controller that modifies the ECU signals to extract the most out of your engine. This can be done with a laptop or normal computer instead, which allows for easier tuning for every mod you do. Right now, this would be the way to go if someone made a plug and play harness for them.
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How did you plan to get the ECU Tuned?
Eh ship it to us? We've done about 10 2.4L ECM's this week already lol
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
This can be done with a laptop or normal computer instead, which allows for easier tuning for every mod you do. Right now, this would be the way to go if someone made a plug and play harness for them.
Definately, but you'll still need the ECU retune to let any of that power really hit the groud with all the "nanny controls" in the stock ECM that pull timing for nearly anything from a hard launch to a hard shift
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Definately, but you'll still need the ECU retune to let any of that power really hit the groud with all the "nanny controls" in the stock ECM that pull timing for nearly anything from a hard launch to a hard shift

Mine's coming soon. 657 miles on it now. I'll be sending it once I get it inspected this weekend.
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Definately, but you'll still need the ECU retune to let any of that power really hit the groud with all the "nanny controls" in the stock ECM that pull timing for nearly anything from a hard launch to a hard shift
so u are saying that even if we get a piggyback controller we will still need a reflash to get rid of "granny controls"? also in this reflash have you verified if you can kill traction control on the autos or change shift points?
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
so u are saying that even if we get a piggyback controller we will still need a reflash to get rid of "granny controls"? also in this reflash have you verified if you can kill traction control on the autos or change shift points?
Yup sure can.
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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ok so have you tested when you kill t/c how does the car shift is it a hrad shift or a normal feeling shift? my t/c has gone out on me before and when it does the car is really fast but the shift changes are very hard...
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Originally Posted by GTPprix
Eh ship it to us? We've done about 10 2.4L ECM's this week already lol
Oh, Sounds great, Do you use the Force to decide what the engine needs?
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
ECU tune would be the ultimate,
No, AEM EMS would be the ULTIMATE.

A Full Standalone.
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Oh, Sounds great, Do you use the Force to decide what the engine needs?
No we have dyno tested combo calibrations available Ideally for oddball combos an ECM tune fine tuned with a piggyback would be a good idea. But so far we have calibrations for Stock cars, Intake and Exhaust cars and even turbos
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Sorry Brian. You're right with the full standalone. I forgot that option. MY B!



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