2.4L LE5 Performance Tech 16 valve 171 hp EcoTec with 163 lb-ft of torque

How much can a 2.4L boost safely?

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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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OHHH.... what about putting the boost from one feeding into the other for a twin charged set up...

on a serious note. You can safely put up quite a bit in these engines. But since your obviously new to it, i suggest small, then upgrade... Or you may want to look at supercharging. Its cheaper and a lil easier to do.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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LOL its a leaf blower with a 12v=>120v power converter. That might have a chance at boosting it a little. Funny thing that there is a vid of someone using one on a truck while on a dyno. They have U-tube blocked at work, I'll try and find it tonight. Makes you wonder though. Anyone feel like building a 1500 watt motor to put onto a centrifugal supercharger
There is a electronic supercharger that really does work. I cant remember the watts or the company (found it in a honda mag once long ass time ago), but it has a eaton with like 3 starter motors it lookes like straped onto it. It takes its own batteries and such but that price was not worth the benifits at all! But it was like 5 psi all the time doesnt matter the rpm or some ****.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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As i promised... proof that if you hook up a gas powered leaf blower you gain 10-20 hp more... gotta love the intelligence of opening a NOS bottle next to a 2 cycle motor.... morons...

Leaf Blower Bolt on Dyno pull

so who wants to do the getto supercharger?
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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hahah thats awesome, waht i dont understand in the videos is..what does blowing the nos into the leaf blower do? im a noob when it comes to nos
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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NOS is NO2. It is one of they few 'safe' ways of boosting the oxygen in the cylinder. You cant use strait oxygen cause it will burn back into the intake manifold.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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As i promised... proof that if you hook up a gas powered leaf blower you gain 10-20 hp more... gotta love the intelligence of opening a NOS bottle next to a 2 cycle motor.... morons...

Leaf Blower Bolt on Dyno pull

so who wants to do the getto supercharger?
that is one of the most estuped things i haves seens.....lol....but it worked.....go leaf blowers!!!!
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:38 AM
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i thot a turbod 2.4 could safely handle 8-12 psi...but 13+ youre starting to push it
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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i thot a turbod 2.4 could safely handle 8-12 psi...but 13+ youre starting to push it
Hahn is running 21 lbs of boost, with no ill effects to date and no internals. Only time will tell though. I think the engine is pretty well built. Crankshaft is supposed to be good for 350 hp at the spline. looks like there may be some over design included in that.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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The electric super charger from Thomas Knight is the only real electric super charger out there.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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The electric super charger from Thomas Knight is the only real electric super charger out there.
Originally Posted by Thomas Knight Website
What's it made out of?

The core of our ESC™ 350c is a centrifugal type supercharger. This durable unit flows up to 6 psi** in less than a second and is rated up to 400 hp. Its impeller is turned by a custom-wound electric motor. Most components are CNC-machined, 60-16 T6 aircraft aluminum. Every unit is made-to-order by Thomas Knight, thoroughly tested and backed by our competitive 1-year warranty.
http://www.boosthead.com/product.php


I wonder that the **'s mean. couldnt find them on the page... i bet that is 6lbs of boost at idle. And for 2500 bucks, I'll pull the turbo off a junk engine, and build my own electric motor that would produce much higher boost levels.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Pics or Ban!!!
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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It all depends on what size turbo and how much CFM it flows
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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it produces good power there was an article in turbo mag where they dyno'd one of his first setups

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/04...ger/index.html

looks like i works well lol
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Well, just curious if it did work, what is the power draw. I know you can run it on batteries, but I wonder how it would run if i plugged it into the cars electrical. Here is what i am thinking...

A electric/traditional turbo. It has an electric motor that only engages to spool it up...
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Im running 10 psi sometimes depending on how cold it is. It fluctuates from 8-10. Im upping the boost in the spring cuz the engine can handle it if well tuned for the application. The tranny is where more of my worry is going to.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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I'm currently running 11-11.5 PSI depending on the day with a HPT. I am also running E-85 though, and keeping an eye on timing etc. I doubt I could use as much without detonation on premium fuel though.

Jim
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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I'm currently running 11-11.5 PSI depending on the day with a HPT. I am also running E-85 though, and keeping an eye on timing etc. I doubt I could use as much without detonation on premium fuel though.

Jim
wth another fast 2.4 in AZ? where the hell are you guys coming from??
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Quasimotor
I'm currently running 11-11.5 PSI depending on the day with a HPT. I am also running E-85 though, and keeping an eye on timing etc. I doubt I could use as much without detonation on premium fuel though.

Jim
ummm pix or ban ... seriously dude DAYUM lol
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 03:03 AM
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I might want to mention, my IDC % is high with 60's I'm at 92% now, and thinking this isn't such a good idea.

Pic's...I'll get some soon. But you folks won't be impressed with a HHR

Jim
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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A 2.7" pulley is only getting you 11lbs? I'm getting 9lbs with the 3.34
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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A 2.7" pulley is only getting you 11lbs? I'm getting 9lbs with the 3.34
I dunno, maybe my blower isn't up to snuff. Beck said he's only making 7-8 lbs with a stock pulley, and with the 3 inch pulley I was making 10 psi. I'm also at 3000 Ft and Beck is close to sea level so I would imagine that has something to do with it.

I was dissapointed in the gain from the 3 inch to the 2.7, but unless my bypass is starting to open (blower holding vacuum at the T/B), I'm not sure why the low PSI numbers. I have the belt as tight as she goes, so I doubt it's slipage.

I was impressed with how hard the 2.7 hit compared to the 3 inch, it blows the tires of much sooner and harder.

Jim

On a side note, you're also stick and I'm auto. Looking at stick logs, you guys shock the blower much harder than I do shifting etc....

Jim

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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The other thing that is odd, is the 92% duty cycle on 60's. I'm in the low to mid 80's on 42's. We should compare tunes. I'm not running with a map sensor right now though, which may throw you off. I understand this is not the best way to run the car but for the time being (I'll fix it soon) it's ok.

nevermind: just noticed you are on e85
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pjk91
The other thing that is odd, is the 92% duty cycle on 60's. I'm in the low to mid 80's on 42's. We should compare tunes. I'm not running with a map sensor right now though, which may throw you off. I understand this is not the best way to run the car but for the time being (I'll fix it soon) it's ok.

nevermind: just noticed you are on e85
Your not running the 2.5 bar Map? I guess you can tune without the map, but it's nice to see what happens with PE when the boost comes in.

Jim
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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HHR s/c? nice man. keep up the good work.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Nevermind I figured it out










Yes I know it's dirty, and Beck already got me for the crummy looking valve cover etc

Jim
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