we send you the tune file via email and you flash it in using HP Tuner, you should be able to find someone local who has it. If you have any problems you send us the log file and we'll fix it. You will also have to buy a license for your car from HP Tuners which costs $100.

Also highly recommended that you have a wideband installed on your car, preferably one you can log with, I recommend the LC1.

 

so basically...byt he time you add everything up itl pretty much round out to damn close to the amount of money the hahn kit is costing and your making a little be more power with the hahn kit....but its still nice to have diff. boosting options

 

hahn kit cost an extra 1,000 plus install.

 

Its still less money then Hahn and makes more power. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure who's gonna sell more.

 

i believe the hahn kit was making 240 ish hp/tq....install isnt that bad...id do that myself...kits is just 3100 for everything...including the tune....and if you dont have anyone near by then you have to buy hptuners plus a liscence which is roughly another 600-700...so thatd put you right around the price of the hahn kit..now lets say you could find the parts for the kit cheeper...and have someone around with hptuners...then youd be set

 

forgot 2bar map sensor $80

 

if you were speaking of me about the PSI thing.. psi really never matters... i was just giving a relative thing, it's all about blower efficiency and CFM..

how's your build going?

 

No hanh was selling the cheapest from TNT at 3,800 and the install is longer then a supercharger and to be honest i would only trust a car guru to install either one on my car that is only a year old. Second the turbo has more potential in the long run i suppose with bigger turbo etc....but the TS at the price of a hanh turbo is great and the power is crazy for a daily driver. You can mail in your PCM to someone and let them flash it just remove ship and wait to get back if you can't uninstall the pcm and reinstall it you shouldn't be putting in a turbo anyways.

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1. So your company will have no problem allowing us to pick what parts we need from the kit if we find parts else where?

 

^^ That isn't to mention you could probably find an M62 for quite a bit cheaper, which is the biggest chunk out of this.

With that said, I'm still planning on Hahn turbo with a pro install for my 2.4l..

 

No man i know you know what your talking about, just everyone kept making it seem like the m62 can still put out 19psi on the 2.4 engine and be at like 300+whp and still be in its efficiency range. Thats completely wrong and i wanted explain why. I just hope people realize that you will only get 14psi, maybe less out of a 2.7 - 2.5 pulley on the 2.4 engine. Thats exactly why you only see 7.5psi on the 2.4 vs 12psi on the LSJ.

My build is going... Just trying to get the engine from denver to here then i get to throw in the pistons/rods and swap it in.

 

I have a new toy on my wish list. I cant wait to get this on my G5. I gonna have to go out and get new badgeing since i wont be a GT any more, more like a GTP or GXP.

 

nice does the new engine have the procharger?


if you're looking for 300WHP on the M62 it's possible but you'll be over spining the hell out of the blower however it should be possible ... i feel like you'll be maxing out at like 15PSI and close to 290HP on the blower before it starts to get ridiculous heat soak. regardless this should be a bit better than ss/scs I couldn't imagine how much the car would put out with meth or an ice box, dual pass, 2.7 pulley, full exhaust, intake and tune haha that would probably kick ass, and if you do the installs yourself it wouldn't be much more than the hahn kit i would think... it all depends on your power goals... the twin screw give a bit more potential but if you want alot of HP you're going to be hard pressed with a TS or roots on these cars, since the blower would be bigger the more HP you want..

don't worry wasn't taking offense just i'm usually posting quickly at work... and I don't work in a cubicle so it's obvious when i'm typing depending on where my boss it haha...

usually njhk cleans up my half jumbled statements and fills them out a bit more

in all reality the m62 will be your cheapest setup... with how many wrecked redlines and ss/scs there are and the fact that more and more people are doing swaps you should have no problem getting parts... and still 2900 before tuning is a rocking deal, the only thing I know thats a better deal is ionjenztchs turbo kit haha

my advice to people thinking about going this route... do major planning.. see how much HP you want as a goal and choose, because if you think you're going to be pushing out 350-400hp on this system Crank or wheel, it's not going to happen with some major work, the twin screw would help.. but unless you get that right off the bat that will be another 2K or so for the upgrade.

however depending on the dealership you might be able to con them into warrantying it hahaha who knows they might think it's wrong in the computer if you get a new valve cover and all haha if a dealership will warranty stg 3 anything's possible

just get some transformers badges haha or have it gt/sc

haha

 

now this is for the 2.0 supercharged i read most of this thread so im assuming it is. unless they can fab up something so this can work with the 2.4 i wonder buy the hahn turbo kit and this for the 2.4 you think that would be possible hmm this would be something im interested it well 350whp wouldnt be to bad lol.

ryan.

im an idiot g5 duh but is it for the g5 sc or 2.4?

 

No this is for putting the 2.0 blower on the 2.4 and it makes more power then a stock 2.0 and more torque then a sage 2 2.0 does. Basicly its a an SRT killing package.

 

WOW! and for about 1100 less the hahn kit wow thats nice i think i read whats that 290whp i think id go for this all day. now i dont know if anyone asked this but thats what i was trying to get accomplished sc the 2.4 and then turbo it or either or.

is it possible to run this sc setup and then run a hahn turbo setup with proper tuning and dyno time that would be some serious whp like 350 of course with new clutch tires and all extremities. what you think

ryan.

 

not quite srt killing right out of the box but with a few extra mods .. BAM you're set so you actually gonna do it jack? i think it would be awesome..

 

lol first he says im the first to go turbo with hahn kit lol now this lol

ryan.

sorry read it wrong 226whp thats decent for a what stock 2.4 eco. now will this setup work for the cobalt its basically the same thing just maybe different computer for the cars weight and such i dont know.

but add a turbo to that sc kit your lookin at high 200s or 300whp even.

 

IDK maybe if its a plug and play deal. I don't feel like having to jump thru flaming hoops of horse **** to make it work. It sounds easy enough but I like things broken down to the level a moron could understand it cause its less likly the "Oops we forgot to mention..." type details to hide.

If all I have to do is spend a day turning wrenches on my car then yes I will get this one. The Hahn kit looks fine don't get me wrong but a couple of things I'm not hot on. First and formost they ran the piping above the top of the engine, NOT a very pretty package and IMO about 1/2 of what a car is is its looks. I don't want to pop my hood and not be able to see my valve cover thru all their stuff. Secondly I have to ship them my ECU and be without a car for 3 DAYS! 3 DAYS? No thanks! This "kit" I can install myself, cruise veeeeery gently up to Tune Time in Jersey and get the car re-flashed by them useing their stuff for about the same price as Rebel wants.

This "kit" just seems to be a better option for me.

So? Hahn came out first and it was an instant WOW! This to me is a more apealing package.

Why do that when you can go twinscrew and hit arouond 300+?

 

twincharging a 2.4 would be just like twincharging the 2.0, added heat for not much gain really unless done perfectly...

and yes it should work.. hence why it was posted here haha. this setup will work for the balt, ion, and g5.. it would just be a matter of the custom parts maybe being slightly different, tuning would be different but long as you can tune it itll be fine.

yea it is nice to get everything broken down... hell if rebel sold the custom parts and the instructions for a fee I'm sure they could make some money off it even if they don't sell the whole kit. the sc just seems more like a user friendly install / maintenance package. I wanna see some it pushed till it pops because I don't wanna be the one to find that out hahah so wait jack... there's no way for you to tune cept tune time? don't you do HPtuning?

 

twinscrew im not to knowledgable on this i dont know what that is elighten me. well with the sc and turbo might be interesting but it might be to much of a problem is all. but this sc looks very nice clean and i like the black look of this sc other then the gm stock one for the 2.0 cobalt.

and its really cheap to0. i think it is anyway.

twinscrew is what now?

ryan.

 

A more efficient supercharger capable of about 20+ psi of boost without as much heat.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-sc...e_supercharger

twincharging is a waste (IMO) and a custom job

 

i would take it this comes with a heat exchanger or some sort of bypass to rid of heat.

throttle body and stuff included i read the parts list i dont know but seems interesting. if i could give you rep jacko i would it wont let me lol.

ryan.

 

and for a little more in depth it's similar to a roots however because of the "twin screw" design it creates an internal compression which actually helps keep the temps down because when it goes into the manifold the air cools instead of like the roots where it just spins the air but doesn't compress it so it just shoots out blazing hot air haha.

google is your friend if you need anything more about it

god damnnnn people are ninjaing my replies haha

 

thanks this is alot more interesting the hahn kit i dont know what to buy now lol.

i would like the whine in my 2.4 but then i like the chsssssh! when i shift with the turbo hmm i dont know.

ryan. i could borrow some money and get both lol