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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Official Cruze details

http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-cruze.html

1.8 looks like junk. 1.4L Turbo looks good---remember this is focused on fuel economy.

Just needs a coupe, 2.4L DI and an SS model.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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GM admitted the LE5 was a mistake, I doubt they'd put an intermediate motor in this one too... if the LAF will be the top motor then so be it, but if they go with the LNF I don't see the 2.4 DI making it in. I also say don't call it SS, call it a sport and be done with it.

Excluding fleet sales, GM surely builds as many coupes as sedans for these cars... where the hell is the coupe?
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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Remeber who is running GM these days...you have a better chance of getting a diesel electric than a LNF this time around...
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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im liking the interior of this car.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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im liking the interior of this car.
x2 ^^^
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by msfitoy
Remeber who is running GM these days...you have a better chance of getting a diesel electric than a LNF this time around...
2.4 DI doesn't do much better than the LNF, mileage wise.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Interesting reads.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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I think they need to keep producing the Cobalt SS to fill the affordable sport coupe void. Maybe we should start a petition or email GM reps? They have put so much effort into improving the handling and performance of the Cobalt that it would be a shame to see it killed off so soon.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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SS is no longer politically correct at goverment motors you will probably see a hybrid before a LNF. Besides 3 production years is not a bad run the LSJ (05-07) only lasted 3 years in the cobalt and the SRT4 neon only lasted 3 years (03-05) we had the same time as the rest of them unfortunetly the LNF didn't catch on like those guys be it because the bad economy or inability to really tune the ecu or other factors. unfortunetly this may be it for the LNF and any replacement will have to meet a new politically correct standard.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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I love how the turbo is rated 2 horsepower more than the non turbo. That just seems really strange. Anyone else notice that?
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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2.0T - 260 hp
2.4 n/a (2.0 + 0.4) - less hp

1.4T -138 hp
1.8 n/a (1.4 + 0.4) - less hp

Nothing we haven't seen before from the General.

Why, however, they are producing 2 motors for this car with effectively no difference in hp, is beyond me.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Yeah but the 2.0 is 260 while the 2.4 is what like 170 something? Pretty big gap compared to the 2 hp gap between F/I and N/A in the cruze.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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"6 speed automatic or manual" They putting a 6spd manual in this biotch!?!?!
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HyperMuffin
Yeah but the 2.0 is 260 while the 2.4 is what like 170 something? Pretty big gap compared to the 2 hp gap between F/I and N/A in the cruze.
I'm thinking they could be making a bit more power with that 1.4.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Hopefully there will be some easy mods that can be done for cheap to get some more power from the 1.4
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisa
GM admitted the LE5 was a mistake, I doubt they'd put an intermediate motor in this one too... if the LAF will be the top motor then so be it, but if they go with the LNF I don't see the 2.4 DI making it in. I also say don't call it SS, call it a sport and be done with it.

Excluding fleet sales, GM surely builds as many coupes as sedans for these cars... where the hell is the coupe?
where did GM admit to the 2.4L being a mistake? They did for the SS 2.4L--not the engine...far as I know..

Originally Posted by blackvette101
SS is no longer politically correct at goverment motors
GM is not shelving SS by any stretch. Read:

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...ture-gm-86332/

High performance is not dying. Just transforming. We will see smaller engine with turbos.

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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by avro206

High performance is not dying. Just transforming. We will see smaller engine with turbos.
hmmm...I thought the 2.0 LNF turbo was small...that's only .4 liter bigger than my Mini Cooper S and it's 4 feet longer...
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisa
GM admitted the LE5 was a mistake, I doubt they'd put an intermediate motor in this one too...
They said giving it the SS moniker was a mistake, they didn't say the 2.4L was a mistake.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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gm has announced officially that the lnf will be used in more lines due to the MPG it gets and power it puts out

Originally Posted by REIGN SS
They said giving it the SS moniker was a mistake, they didn't say the 2.4L was a mistake.
true story

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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by msfitoy
Remeber who is running GM these days...you have a better chance of getting a diesel electric than a LNF this time around...
Originally Posted by blackvette101
SS is no longer politically correct at goverment motors you will probably see a hybrid before a LNF. Besides 3 production years is not a bad run the LSJ (05-07) only lasted 3 years in the cobalt and the SRT4 neon only lasted 3 years (03-05) we had the same time as the rest of them unfortunetly the LNF didn't catch on like those guys be it because the bad economy or inability to really tune the ecu or other factors. unfortunetly this may be it for the LNF and any replacement will have to meet a new politically correct standard.
Both of you get your collective heads out of your asses.

The performance cars at GM are NOT dead.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Baron7700
"6 speed automatic or manual" They putting a 6spd manual in this biotch!?!?!
Dude, the motor's like a Honda, no torque you gotta keep that ****** high in the RPM band if you want any sort of throttle response. Imo a 6-speed in the Cruze is a must!
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by blackvette101
SS is no longer politically correct at goverment motors you will probably see a hybrid before a LNF. Besides 3 production years is not a bad run the LSJ (05-07) only lasted 3 years in the cobalt and the SRT4 neon only lasted 3 years (03-05) we had the same time as the rest of them unfortunetly the LNF didn't catch on like those guys be it because the bad economy or inability to really tune the ecu or other factors. unfortunetly this may be it for the LNF and any replacement will have to meet a new politically correct standard.
The truth is that GM doesn't know how to market their product...when I went shopping for a GM product, I didn't know what I was looking for until I did some research and discovered that SS/TC held the class record at Nurburgring...WTF?!?!? Why wasn't I told this? Why wasn't the world told this??!?!?!

Originally Posted by DeftonesFan867
Both of you get your collective heads out of your asses.

The performance cars at GM are NOT dead.
And the "hope and change" is working out just great...

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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by msfitoy
The truth is that GM doesn't know how to market their product...when I went shopping for a GM product, I didn't know what I was looking for until I did some research and discovered that SS/TC held the class record at Nurburgring...WTF?!?!? Why wasn't I told this? Why wasn't the world told this??!?!?!


And the "hope and change" is working out just great...
I totally agree about the marketing. I love the look on peoples' faces when I blow past them or corner really hard. Surprises everyone.

YET, why is there never a commercial.

I promise if they had an HD video of the Cobalt SS/TC at Nurburging on TV, that they would fly off the shelves. I think I saw one SS/SC in a commercial once.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Just adding HID as an option would have done great justice to this small car...

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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Agree with umrdyldo; mind you they went on a spree for a while there of marketing the "deals" they had not the vehicles. They're now returning to marketing the vehicles but far too many are focused on fuel efficiency. When the SCs were first released they were flying off the dealer's lots, the TCs are an entirely different story BUT that might be a sign of the times (ie. the average vehicles owner sees "turbocharged" or "supercharged" mixed with "premium fuel" and run for the hills.

So far as the Cruze is concerned I have seen 0 mention of it on Canadian television yet. They have a commercial where they show the new Aveo (I'll be honest, it's a nice step up), the Volt and Malibu but again they don't really call anything out on them. The TC SHOULD have been marketed based on track performance but it wasn't; mind you I don't recall the NSRT-4 or CSRT-4 being marketed here heavily either.....
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