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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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ahh, screw it. my car is fast and i dont feel like dropping another grand or two for 40hp. anybody want a 2.4? lol
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Ok, put the LSJ head on the LE5
Use LE5 HG
Use LSJ cps
Use LE5 FW and pressure plate
Use LSJ friction disk
(for above clutch options make sure that the two pressure plates are withing a couple thousands of an inch thickness wise, should work though, or just use an L200 clutch)
Figure out what clutch hydro to use.
Love the fact that you have 11.3:1 compression with a blower and all the extra power that brings.

But if you are going to sell the 2.4 how much and does it have the oil cooler?
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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lmfao @ the newt idiot
it's not as simple as slapping everything on main problem is the reluctor ring there was a reason full throttle was close but not there.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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Weird, the reluctor shouldnt matter between hall effect and VR. Unless the Cript value is different or something.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafydialupking
Weird, the reluctor shouldnt matter between hall effect and VR. Unless the Cript value is different or something.
aparantly you cant read so ill repost it for you

The crank ring is off by 12 deg (difference between LE5 and LSJ). You would need to replace the ring on the LE5 crank with the LSJ ring."the start and stop points for the ring are not the same and then once you swap the rings you have to open up the lsj ring so the sensor will read
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
lmfao @ the newt idiot
it's not as simple as slapping everything on main problem is the reluctor ring there was a reason full throttle was close but not there.
ZOMG you Delta kids make everything so difficult, ****.

You think the reluctor ring in a Delta is the same as a J-Body...nope. Surprise I'm still putting LE5 in my car.....


ZOMG that must be IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!

Obviously this swap can be done, if it's already been done before. There is some leg work involved but if you use your head instead of think of solutions you would be surprised what you could accomplish.


Jesus Christ you guys make my head hurt sometimes.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 01:21 AM
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05Slowline:


Do me a favor and type "60-2 crank trigger" into google and hit enter.


Find one (of the dozens of available wheels out there) that should come close to be mountable to the crank pulley. Buy it, modify it to fit and the look in the mirror and call yourself an idiot for thinking this was super complicated.


Mr.belvedere you might as well join him.




ZOMG DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND?????!!!??!?!?
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 07:07 AM
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take your sunfire and keep telling yourself that buddy whatever makes you feel better
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 07:18 AM
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Seriously, buy this ELECTROMOTIVE MOTEC 60-2 TOOTH TRIGGER WHEEL 7.25" O.D. | eBay

and do this with it.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 07:26 AM
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god now we're advertising ebay parts for some of the most critical components of your motor LOL
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 07:38 AM
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Honestly thats the only way you'll be able to get it unless you buy it in a kit like this. Holley EFI 556-110 SBC CRANK TRIGGER KIT $199.00 BUY ONLINE
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
take your sunfire and keep telling yourself that buddy whatever makes you feel better
lmao

Originally Posted by newt
05Slowline:


Do me a favor and type "60-2 crank trigger" into google and hit enter.


Find one (of the dozens of available wheels out there) that should come close to be mountable to the crank pulley. Buy it, modify it to fit and the look in the mirror and call yourself an idiot for thinking this was super complicated.


Mr.belvedere you might as well join him.




ZOMG DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND?????!!!??!?!?
lmao no what ur posting up is so old it isent funny and it is a bandaid at best so far the mind your blowing is your own

Originally Posted by Leafydialupking
Seriously, buy this ELECTROMOTIVE MOTEC 60-2 TOOTH TRIGGER WHEEL 7.25" O.D. | eBay

and do this with it.
nice way to mount it lmao

Last edited by mrbelvedere; Jun 16, 2011 at 08:25 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
take your sunfire and keep telling yourself that buddy whatever makes you feel better

Oh no...cut me super deep there man....****.....

I guess you are out of intellegent rebutels so you are resorting to pointing out the obvious......well played....wait.....no.....where Im I taking my Sunfire? and what am I telling myself?

What you posted doesn't even make sense, sorry.

PS...people in glass housing shouldn't throw stones.....the man with an Ion is trying to make fun of a sunfire......they are both shitty cars chum....at least I can accept my car is junk (half the reason I like it).


Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
lmao no what ur posting up is so old it isent funny and it is a bandaid at best so far the mind your blowing is your own
A bandaid at best? Cars come from the factory with external crank triggers and they work just fine.

Not to mention external crank triggers are VERY common in the aftermarket world since I quick search in google returns literally DOZENS of currently produced wheels.


But I guess they aren't good enough for a Delta car....everyone else must be doing it wrong and Mr.Belvedere only knows how to do it right.


Good luck with that.....I give up on you kids.....
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 08:53 AM
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external triggers are and were very common but take some pride and mount right and not do it like some half assed hack would
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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Right.....so why are you arguing external crank triggers are not a good idea then????
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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im not ive installed a few of them on 4.6l mustangs so you can adjust the timing just ur mounting on the ring is weak and half assed and someone did what you are doing a longtime ago on the rlf and i dont think it worked to well
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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Right.....ok then.....so to recap........putting a LSJ head on a LE5 block is easy......getting the crank trigger issue sorted out is pretty easy......getting the F35 to bolt to an LE5 block is pretty easy.


So why again were you guys crying this was so hard?????????

And why was everyone so quick to throw up their arms and call bullshit on my saying this was not going to be very hard????????


PS. Thats not my motor....but I know whos motor that is.....its built, running and hasn't had a single issue yet with the crank referance. Also the referance off that trigger is near perfect.

You call that half assed....I call that a success....which is more than I can say for that other guy who is still dicking around trying to get is LE5 bottom end to run in his Delta due to this same issue.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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to do it without bandaids is the hard part and running a an external ring in a hals assed way is a bandaid doing it correctly is alot harder then you think
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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I give up.....
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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is the placement of the crank sensor on the LE5 different from the LSJ as far as placement on the block? i have access to a machine shop that could shave off the reluctor wheel edge and i could swap it on the LE5 crank. im wondering if this build will want to rev to 7500rpm cuz im cammed...
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 12:12 AM
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Is the advanced performance section so sad that you can't look into getting something custom made if need be? I've had plenty on crank trigger wheels custom made if there wasn't a viable option in the OEM or aftermarket world. This isn't rocket science guys.
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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^^^someone gets it....thank you.
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Quick92RS
Is the advanced performance section so sad that you can't look into getting something custom made if need be? I've had plenty on crank trigger wheels custom made if there wasn't a viable option in the OEM or aftermarket world. This isn't rocket science guys.
there is a viable option to do it and it has been done but most people dont want to take the time to do it right they just want to half ass it together and for the record i am for external triggers as long as its done right
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
there is a viable option to do it and it has been done but most people dont want to take the time to do it right they just want to half ass it together and for the record i am for external triggers as long as its done right
What is the right way to do an external trigger?
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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it needs to be bolted to the dampner with more then just 1 bolt
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