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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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it isn't routed thru the car

it's routed over the passenger side steering rack, and along the subframe. A 3-4" inconspicuous hole is drilled in the trunk for the hoses to be routed in.
I see, I get it now.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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First posted updated with how its routed underneath the car.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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thanks thats makes alot more sense, can you get a video of it running and show the flow in the tank by taking the cap off? i would like to see the pressure the pump is making after that length of hose
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sundevil07
thanks thats makes alot more sense, can you get a video of it running and show the flow in the tank by taking the cap off? i would like to see the pressure the pump is making after that length of hose
theres a video of it flowing in the tank in the first post
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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Expect this to add about 35 to 40+ lbs when full.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Do you guys road race these things where you need THAT much extra cooling? Or do you just floor it everywhere you drive like an idiot.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Flit
theres a video of it flowing in the tank in the first post
i am full of fail today, why would anyone want to upgrade the bosch pump? that ****** moves serious amounts of fluid
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rockSTAR_SS
Expect this to add about 35 to 40+ lbs when full.
US GALLON = APPROX. 8.35 LBS

4x8.35 = 33.40 LBS

I guess this tank may pose a problem if your heavily over weight. Otherwise the weight added is negligible.

Originally Posted by chris88z24
Do you guys road race these things where you need THAT much extra cooling? Or do you just floor it everywhere you drive like an idiot.
Have you ever ran anything smaller than a 3.0 pulley on a m62?

I frequent my local mountains often; why spend $150 for a track day, when I have one in my own backyard.

And yes, I do floor it everyday, more often than most; I tune via HPT, and I'm always putting the car thru different setups.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Flit
And this tank was able to match your dual pass by just adding water. lol
I bet it doesn't match the dual pass in price. though .. at least not the do it yourself way..

Still an awesome idea.. and I expect it to out perform the dp in multiple pulls situation.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 383_Stroker
I bet it doesn't match the dual pass in price. though .. at least not the do it yourself way..

Still an awesome idea.. and I expect it to out perform the dp in multiple pulls situation.
I can't really post cost n such on here since I'm not allowed to sell this to the forum. I think it's safe to say though, this is less than a dual pass.

The dual pass goes new for I think around 250?

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i am full of fail today, why would anyone want to upgrade the bosch pump? that ****** moves serious amounts of fluid
check out zzp's write up on our OEM bosch intercooler pump.

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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Flit
Almost correct

US GALLON = APPROX. 8.35 LBS

4x8.35 = 33.40 LBS

I guess this tank may pose a problem if your over weight. Otherwise the weight is negligible.
33.40 LBS + unknown weight of the tank
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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an extra 30-40 lbs is the least of your cars concerns.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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I give whoever props for the effort here, but I really believe 4 gallons it overkill. Some may agree some will disagree. Nobody wants all that heater hose running open underneath the car... Why doesn't someone just fill the washer fluid tank with coolant and tap into that for more capacity. I still believe that if you got a big OTT or ZZP heat exchanger, your going to be nearly as good as this setups on 3-4 full back to back pulls.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by schamsy
I give whoever props for the effort here, but I really believe 4 gallons it overkill. Some may agree some will disagree. Nobody wants all that heater hose running open underneath the car... Why doesn't someone just fill the washer fluid tank with coolant and tap into that for more capacity. I still believe that if you got a big OTT or ZZP heat exchanger, your going to be nearly as good as this setups on 3-4 full back to back pulls.
When has overkill ever been a bad thing?
Trunk space is still very much there
the hose can be wrapped in a loom if your worried about corrosion; here in SOCAL it's not an issue since we dont have salted roads.

For those of us running a smaller pulley 2.7-2.5", this will help a lot in addition to a big front mount h/e, a dual pass, and meth.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Ask any Cobra/Lightning owner. Most do not prefer to upgrade their intercooler, only the fluid capacity of their cooling system. I've spoke with numerous of these owners about this issue, which led me to design a 2 gallon tank earlier this year. This increases the efficiency of their cooling system greatly, and for a fraction of the cost.

When I was using the 2 gallon tank, I had just enough room to fill it half full of water and then a 10 lb bag of ice. It lasted about 2 back-to-back passes down the track before I was seeing normal operating temperature again. After that, I had to drain out some water and re-fill with ice just to cool the system down again. Once it cooled down, I added more ice to the system for more runs.

With this design, I see the larger quantity of cold water staying cooler, longer. I also see easier access to this tank than my previous tank, which was stowed away under the trunk mat. Yes, it requires about 26-30ft of heater hose and is fairly time consuming on the install portion, but if ran properly the lines are not noticable under the car and the extra water really pays off. Plus, as it's already been said, this will go hand in hand with a dual pass end plate and a front mount heat exchanger. I will even go as far to say that it can easily be used as an alternative to either of the previously listed mods.

To fully appreciate the product, you honestly need to try it out to see actual results. That's just my experienced opinion on the subject. For those who don't need it may see it as an overkill.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rockSTAR_SS
Ask any Cobra/Lightning owner. Most do not prefer to upgrade their intercooler, only the fluid capacity of their cooling system. I've spoke with numerous of these owners about this issue, which led me to design a 2 gallon tank earlier this year. This increases the efficiency of their cooling system greatly, and for a fraction of the cost.

When I was using the 2 gallon tank, I had just enough room to fill it half full of water and then a 10 lb bag of ice. It lasted about 2 back-to-back passes down the track before I was seeing normal operating temperature again. After that, I had to drain out some water and re-fill with ice just to cool the system down again. Once it cooled down, I added more ice to the system for more runs.

With this design, I see the larger quantity of cold water staying cooler, longer. I also see easier access to this tank than my previous tank, which was stowed away under the trunk mat. Yes, it requires about 26-30ft of heater hose and is fairly time consuming on the install portion, but if ran properly the lines are not noticable under the car and the extra water really pays off. Plus, as it's already been said, this will go hand in hand with a dual pass end plate and a front mount heat exchanger. I will even go as far to say that it can easily be used as an alternative to either of the previously listed mods.

To fully appreciate the product, you honestly need to try it out to see actual results. That's just my experienced opinion on the subject. For those who don't need it may see it as an overkill.
I should say I see a 4 gallon tank in the trunk as overkill. A 2 gallon under the hood sounds great though...
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by schamsy
I should say I see a 4 gallon tank in the trunk as overkill. A 2 gallon under the hood sounds great though...
I guess you like a prime location for making stew in your engine bay :/
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Flit
I can't really post cost n such on here since I'm not allowed to sell this to the forum. I think it's safe to say though, this is less than a dual pass.

The dual pass goes new for I think around 250?
I've got no idea what a vendor's costs.. i made mine.. under $30...LOL
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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instead of using a metal tank has anyone used like a plastic fuel cell? I have come across them on ebay and craigslist for cheap. I have heard that plastic allows heat to escape faster than metal and weigh less. Anyone with pics of their setup too? I am going to start on this little project today since I am not ordering the option B setup so I will post my review with pics soon I hope.

SIMPLE ANSWER MORE FLUID = LONGER TIME REQUIRED TO HEAT ENTIRE QUANITY
weight reduction isn't as important as longevity of motor.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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4 gallons dose seem like a bit much, i was looking for something that would fit on the passenger side under the hood that has a big race style cap so that i could pack it with ice in between runs at the track.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by phatnackySS
4 gallons dose seem like a bit much, i was looking for something that would fit on the passenger side under the hood that has a big race style cap so that i could pack it with ice in between runs at the track.
Something like this? lol


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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by phatnackySS
4 gallons dose seem like a bit much, i was looking for something that would fit on the passenger side under the hood that has a big race style cap so that i could pack it with ice in between runs at the track.
Something like this? This was Euthanasia's first attempt @ a flow thru tank. No the 1900 isnt for sale lol


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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Something like this? This was Euthanasia's first attempt @ a flow thru tank. No the 1900 isnt for sale lol
yes in deed , ib been serching but i can only find tanks for mustangs.
only thing i would add would be a valve at the bottom so it can be drained so that more ice can be added as it melts,
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by phatnackySS
yes in deed , ib been serching but i can only find tanks for mustangs.
only thing i would add would be a valve at the bottom so it can be drained so that more ice can be added as it melts,
talk to euthanasia about it.. im sure you guys can work something out outside of CSS
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 03:14 AM
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Installed my 4 gallon flow thru yay

My cobra heat exchanger decided to spring a leak.... :/

Had to plumb in the stock H/E... w/ Dual pass (ZZP method: enter top n bottom, exit middle) & 4 gallon flow thru

Its 52* degrees outside, and at 65 mph IAT2 stayed consistently @ 82*.

Should prob. unbolt my useless cobra soon to it doesnt act as a big block in airflow... :/

Gonna go out to tune soon, so I'll get some WOT results when I do and post up.
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