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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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lol thats why i said kill...why are u talking to me?! i am mad at u...stupid stock black seats...
I'm sorry... do you want a hug?
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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turbo vs blower. different style of cams
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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So how was your labotomy?
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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u tell me..

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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Raven SS

Hmm ouch! Okay back on topic
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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i really need to stop thinking.

the "272" grind is fine for our cars. whats bad is, i set up an excel file at work and compared all the cams, stock. 272, jbp, gm racing specs. the 272 falls right in the middle. i believe i have made up my mind, IF i can get him to keep the lsa the same
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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i really need to stop thinking.

the "272" grind is fine for our cars. whats bad is, i set up an excel file at work and compared all the cams, stock. 272, jbp, gm racing specs. the 272 falls right in the middle. i believe i have made up my mind, IF i can get him to keep the lsa the same

Well what are you going to aim for 272s... or using gmpp specs? C'mon you can't keep us in the dark!
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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i think thats a big problem with u lol..over thinking..
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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i think thats a big problem with u lol..over thinking..
Yep... but that is what makes him good at what he does!
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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nope, not over thinking. just being smart about a major upgrade. convert all the numbers to mm, or inches. don't mix them. then look at the numbers next to each other, either in notepad, or excel. you will see what i see
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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nope, not over thinking. just being smart about a major upgrade. convert all the numbers to mm, or inches. don't mix them. then look at the numbers next to each other, either in notepad, or excel. you will see what i see
this is true but on a stock head...i am flow matching my head to my cams.. and vice versa that way my head and cam set up is "perfect" so to speak
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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the 272's are fine on the stock head. you're just getting antsy. trust me, i have thought this out a lot.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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yea but it worries me like we talked about the shim..i dont have enough back up to support that the shims will be fine or tac welding my head..which the second is way out of the picture..
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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poke around the rlf forums about the shim issue.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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eww..im a one forum kind of guy lol..
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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After the 400hp mark GM used cams with 222 duration @ .050"



Courtesy of the 400-600hp build book.
I'd say go with something like that. Mine are 224/224 @ .050 with .475 lift
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 04:38 AM
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So I killed the thread?
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 04:46 AM
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So I killed the thread?
looks like it
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 04:49 AM
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eww..im a one forum kind of guy lol..
LIAR.... um yeah cant you get completely blank cam's from gm for the 2.0 lsj??? i mean **** if your gonna go on and on about the 272 evo grind cam's bieng to much then get some blank's and have at it.. and yes cam's for a blower car should be different than a turbo car.(ive taken an N/A 5.0 from fully built to a single turbo mild build to a whipple SC moderate build and then a twin turbo setup that was NASTY like 700+ rwhp and tq and every one needed different cam's and well UTI payed for it all cause it was hot rod u) but as it's been said before the LSJ is a heat maker so a set of good cam's wont hert anything at all and if there's ferra valve train **** in there it's an 8k+ rev limit. and lot's of fun.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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LIAR.... um yeah cant you get completely blank cam's from gm for the 2.0 lsj???

No, not if you want to preserve the cam sensor.

i mean **** if your gonna go on and on about the 272 evo grind cam's bieng to much then get some blank's and have at it.. and yes cam's for a blower car should be different than a turbo car.

Maybe. More importantly is the difference from the stock cam to the cam you are changing to. You can't just pick a grind because it "should" be supercharger friendly. I choose a grind based on differences from the stock grind as well as my desired powerband after headwork. One example of my choice of the HKS 272 grind is the similar cam overlap when compared to stock. For the original application, this was to minimize exhaust reversion. It helps me by allowing me to use stock engine management and to preserve the ability of the electronic throttle to control idle. Everything from blower pulley size, head flow, and gear ratios played a role in my decision.

(ive taken an N/A 5.0 from fully built to a single turbo mild build to a whipple SC moderate build and then a twin turbo setup that was NASTY like 700+ rwhp and tq and every one needed different cam's and well UTI payed for it all cause it was hot rod u) but as it's been said before the LSJ is a heat maker so a set of good cam's wont hert anything at all and if there's ferra valve train **** in there it's an 8k+ rev limit. and lot's of fun.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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... wow... totally missed this thread.

WRT to cam configurations, the straight 272 has been known to be a downer.
Of course EVO's and DSM's are turbo, but I've heard that most of them run a 272/264 setup.
Something worth looking into. I'd be all over this, except I'm a little pre-occupied with 3 other projects right now.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
... wow... totally missed this thread.

WRT to cam configurations, the straight 272 has been known to be a downer.
Of course EVO's and DSM's are turbo, but I've heard that most of them run a 272/264 setup.
Something worth looking into. I'd be all over this, except I'm a little pre-occupied with 3 other projects right now.
they do that to preserve idle, and give a bit more topend to the smaller turbo guys.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Crane Cams is who decided my grind. They told me to send them a list of everything done to the engine, what power band I wanted, what gear ratios, weight, boost, ect. I sent them all that info, and thats the grind they came up with to be best suited for a my app, which is a supercharged 4 banger.
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