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Old 06-07-2009, 11:04 AM
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lsj air to air problem

lsj tvs air to air front mount.

the car is sucking really hard on the piping and couplers of the front mount setup we made.

vacuum reads 20 on stock boost gauge.

any ideas or suggestions please help. need car driving tonight.

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Old 06-07-2009, 11:52 AM
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WTF? Pics of said setup?
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pics of this,
id like to see how this it set up
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thanks guys for being so helpful. no its not a ricer thing. picture any air to air setup and thats what it looks like.
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im not saying anything about being ricer... i just want to see it, kind of hard to help with the info you gave
Old 06-07-2009, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayta
im not saying anything about being ricer... i just want to see it, kind of hard to help with the info you gave
someone was talking crap about ricer hahaha. im on my phone right now and dont have a computer to get to. if you want i can send you the pics on your phone if you give me your number. but other than that. youll have to wait. im thinking the car needs some solid pipe. the 4ply couplers i have are just squishing together. as soon as i hit the gas they push back out i just dont like the vacuum sucked in parts
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yeah, it's hard to picture how you mounted the tvs and where the ic piping would go...
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i need to see this
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Silicone couplers should always be straight section no longer then 3". I bet you're using non reinforced couplers that probably do 90 degree bends. And why are you using an air to air? It's a lot more inefficient then a water to air.
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Are you still using the stock liquid to air as well?
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yes the couples are 90 degree and im not sure they are reinforced or not. they are 4ply so i figured it would be ok

air to air is going to be fine. i was looking for flow not so much cooling. the tvs doesnt make as much heat and ive got enough meth to keep things in check.

the tvs is in stock position. pipes come out the bottom and go to the front then come back and into the engine
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Well, a lot of people are gonna wanna see pictures. This has been a heavily discussed subject on this site... you might as well take pics now and post them up.

As far as the couplers go... like others have said... you need some reinforced ones.
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You can text me pics, PM me for my number. Can host them here after if you want.
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If all you cared about was flow, why would you add all the extra piping? That's killing flow. So you've killed flow and sacrificed cooling. Where is the upside to what you've done?
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Your pulling VAC as you know because all of those couplers are mounted after the TB. Normal setups will never see vac there because the TB is after them. You going to need to run metal bends and you can connect them with couplers as long as they are butted together. That should keep them from squishing.

Or you could try to set the TB up after the intercooler.
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sent some pics should be posted soon
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Wow, awesome stuff.

Pics coming soon
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Originally Posted by Maxim_X
Your pulling VAC as you know because all of those couplers are mounted after the TB. Normal setups will never see vac there because the TB is after them. You going to need to run metal bends and you can connect them with couplers as long as they are butted together. That should keep them from squishing.

Or you could try to set the TB up after the intercooler.

Agreed. You will need hard pipes for almost everything to hold the vacuum, silicone will flex too much and collapse under strong vac.
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TVS in stock position


Front mount


Side pipes


Top down looking at piping



Pretty neat set up.
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ya its gonna work pretty well. just gotta get some nice solid pipe
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Silicone couplers should always be straight section no longer then 3". I bet you're using non reinforced couplers that probably do 90 degree bends. And why are you using an air to air? It's a lot more inefficient then a water to air.
if he managed to get rid of the stock intake manifold, he would be loved by soooo many members. That's the big point in his setup. after you ditch the stock IM, you can cool the charge however you like, be it air-air or water-air (without laminovas!)

Looks like the OP cut the bottom half of his IM off and attached a charge pipe to the remains.
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
if he managed to get rid of the stock intake manifold, he would be loved by soooo many members. That's the big point in his setup. after you ditch the stock IM, you can cool the charge however you like, be it air-air or water-air (without laminovas!)

Looks like the OP cut the bottom half of his IM off and attached a charge pipe to the remains.
you got the idea
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I bet his numbers will be lower then anyone elses with the same setup with the stock manifold.
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Originally Posted by slowswap
I bet his numbers will be lower then anyone elses with the same setup with the stock manifold.
Doubtful. I'm actually quite interested in the results here, could be really impressive


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